[chicagojosh]

I've heard about King Shepherds. 90-150 lbs

Arlo is 9 months and a little over 90 (92-93). His parents an easy 110. I prefer the bigger dogs.

No idea where our 10 week old female weighs in at..

wow!!!! 92 @ 9 months!!! that is huge Adam. is you're part king shepherd?

Cody is 1/2 working line, 1/2 pet line, but def not king.

 

[counter]

When I first got Nara 3 years ago, the weight range WAS a part of the AKC standard on their website. They have since removed the weight range for whatever reason.

As for why your GSD is so big, well, some breeders breed oversized dogs intentionally because of public demand. They are usually in it for profit and could care less about the potential negative side effects on an oversized dog's health and well-being. Paw Paw, my husky, is 64 lbs of solid muscle, and a male husky shouldn't be more than 60 lbs, so he's also oversized. People always ask me if he's a malamute, but I let them know that mals are twice the size of Paw Paw. I found out that his breeder called him the "runt of the litter" and laughed at how small he was, so she was one of these breeders breeding for oversized dogs way above the standard. I'm not saying your breeder does this, but you asked why your dog is so big, and this might be why.

 

[chicagojosh]

hello counter, thanks for your thoughts. I know his dad weighs 100. his dad is all pet line GSD. His mom is 75-80 and from what folks on here say and my trainer is like top notch DDR/czech working line.

based on your theory, id say the dad was the one bred to be oversized...but as you said. i dont know if it was intentional. the breeder has titled sch dogs and is responsible based on my knowledge

 

[adamdude04]

Who cares about standard. My pup looks standard but the big bully version

 

[adamdude04]

wow!!!! 92 @ 9 months!!! that is huge Adam. is you're part king shepherd?

Cody is 1/2 working line, 1/2 pet line, but def not king.

No idea about lines. He from a byb

 

[Emoore]

Who cares about standard.

People who care about preserving the breed as a working dog, for one. Being oversized prevents them from being the all-around utilitarian working dog they were intended to be. There's a reason that the majority of herding dogs, guide dogs, service dogs, police dogs, search and rescue dogs, and other dogs that work for a living aren't 120lb.

Being over standard doesn't make a dog a bad pet, but if you want to preserve the breed as a whole as an all-purpose working dog, the standard size is there for a reason.

(In B4 somebody points out their friend who has a mastiff SAR dog or St Bernard service dog or their uncle's cousin's baby's mama's 140lb GSD who herds sheep.)

 

[gsdraven]

People who care about preserving the breed as a working dog, for one. Being oversized prevents them from being the all-around utilitarian working dog they were intended to be. There's a reason that the majority of herding dogs, guide dogs, service dogs, police dogs, search and rescue dogs, and other dogs that work for a living aren't 120lb.

Being over standard doesn't make a dog a bad pet, but if you want to preserve the breed as a whole as an all-purpose working dog, the standard size is there for a reason.

:thumbup:

 

[Denali Girl]

I wouldn't get all stressed out about it if your not going to show him.

 

[Good_Karma]

Josh I don't know if your dog is neutered yet? When we had Niko done he was 86 lbs. Post neuter (about two months later) we had him weighed again and he's lost about 6 lbs. (Insert lewd comment here).

Anyway, he hasn't gained the weight back yet. He's a bit over 28 inches though, so he's out of standard there anyway.

I was surprised Niko was out of standard, both his parents and shown in conformation and within standard. His dad is about 90 lbs.

As far as food quality, I don't know if that would have an impact on the final dimensions of the adult. I think it might make for a more healthy adult who reaches his full potential, but if the genes for height and weight are not there, you will not get a bigger dog unless growth hormones are added. Hmmm, and we add growth hormones to our food supply, so maybe we ARE adding them to our dog's food... Something to think about.

 

[chicagojosh]

hi good karma....Cody got nuetered at 8 months. intesting thoughts about the food. i guess we never know.

denali, thanks for the thoughts, not really worried, but more curious than anything

 

[Lesley1905]

I think he looks great!! He's very manly

 

[chicagojosh]

thank you Leslely!

 

[Wolfiesmom]

He looks good to me. I think the weight standard is more of a guideline and it really depends on how your dog looks. He's certainly not fat by any stretch. Just a big boy.

 

[chicagojosh]

hi wolfies mom,

i was just looking at wolfies log art haha

thanks for the input...i have not idea what wolfie is doing with the logs by the way lol

 

[Wolfiesmom]

hi wolfies mom,

i was just looking at wolfies log art haha

thanks for the input...i have not idea what wolfie is doing with the logs by the way lol

LOL! Maybe Wolfie is just weird.. I was going to add to my response that Chiefy was 120 at his biggest. He was overweight. He finally settled in at 105 being his ideal weight. Wolfie as of about a month ago was 81 lbs. The vet thinks that he will be between 100 and 120.

 

[chicagojosh]

are chiefy and wolfie related?

it seems like most of us GSD's that do weigh more than the standard.

so is the standard out dated? i'm starting to wonder...

 

[jakeandrenee]

I think that standards are very important and breeders should do there best but like others have said many are now going for "big" and over standard is becoming the new standard.

That being said Jake is already about to be over standard at less then 10 months old. He's 79 pounds! I do my very best to keep him active, lean and feed good quality food. For him like Cody it's genetics. We have over standard dogs.....it happens all to often. Most people think bigger is in fact better, look at portions of food etc...

When I saw Jake it was obvious at 9 weeks he was going to be bigger then he "should", but I wanted him and promised him I wouldn't let him over eat, get over weight and give him a great life.... but I had to explain to him that modeling was out of the question.
I think Cody looks great!

 

[chicagojosh]

haha hi renee. im sure jake was crushed when you told him his modeling days were numbered lol.

thanks for the compliment. so see, jake too, heavier than standard. I just may start a poll to see how many of our GSDs actually do fit the standard

 

[Wolfiesmom]

are chiefy and wolfie related?

it seems like most of us GSD's that do weigh more than the standard.

so is the standard out dated? i'm starting to wonder...

No they aren't related at all. Chief was American showline and Wolfie is DDR workingline.

 

[chicagojosh]

No they aren't related at all. Chief was American showline and Wolfie is DDR workingline.

gotcha...so again, it seems most of the gsd's are not within standard. and you're two dogs are great examples that both show and working lines are getting much heavier than standard.

in Cody's case he's already 12.5% over standard 10/80. he's 10 pounds over and i picked 80 as the standard

now in Chiefy's case he was a full 50% over the standard at his heaviest (120 - 80 =40) 40/80 = 50%!!!! that seems crazy! yet it seems to be common as im learning