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90 pounds @ 1 Year...already over breed standard

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#1 · (Edited)
Hi all,

So Cody went to the vet last weekend and weighed in at 90 pounds he is 1 year and about 2 weeks old.

I know the breed standard for males is 75-85. Cody is in no way fat, he's a lean, fit dog. We hiked 9 miles not long ago. What im getting at is....what's wrong with his weight? The vet thinks he'll get to 100 pounds, and I tend to agree since he's still growing.

But the standard says 75-85. he'll end up near 100. He's in shape. Fed TOTW. by all means in good shape. not that i plan on showing him, but i'm wondering why he would be considered overweight?

thanks for you thoughts

oh, for those of you who don't know him, here's a few pics of him at 1 year/90 pounds
 
#12 ·
I dont think weight really matters in the standard.

Height does though.

Sinister is over the standard at 28' at the shoulder and he weighs 80 pounds.
Yes, it does: WEIGHT AND HEIGHT CHART FOR THE GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG

Males:

  • Height at the wither 60 cm to 65 cm (23.62 inches - 25.59 inches)
  • Weight 30 kg to 40 kg. (66.14 pounds - 88.18 pounds; Midrange = 77 pounds)
Sinister weighs the same as Keefer, and both of them are well within the standard. :)
 
#7 ·
German Shepherd Dog | American Kennel Club

Size, Proportion, Substance
The desired height for males at the top of the highest point of the shoulder blade is 24 to 26 inches; and for bitches, 22 to 24 inches.

The German Shepherd Dog is longer than tall, with the most desirable proportion as 10 to 8½. The length is measured from the point of the prosternum or breastbone to the rear edge of the pelvis, the ischial tuberosity. The desirable long proportion is not derived from a long back, but from overall length with relation to height, which is achieved by length of forequarter and length of withers and hindquarter, viewed from the side.

It doesn't say anything about weight, at least if it does I dont see it?
 
#8 ·
you're right laren. the AKC doesn't seem to mention weight. I googled "german shepherd standard" and found some links that do provide weight standards, but maybe it was more of a weight suggestion haha
 
#10 ·
Our GSD, Rappex, who has since gone to The Bridge, was 90 pounds at 1 year. He topped out at about 95 pounds and he was a lean, efficient athlete. Cody looks great to me, so I wouldn't be worried about a specific number. Especially with all of the hiking you do with him.
 
#17 ·
thanks alpha mom

like you said..i can tell he's in good shape. But i still wonder how he ended up so much bigger than the "standard" gsd
there will always be variations in breeds but if it does not impede his original intended use,hes healthy then no one should gasp and say"oh no he's too tall or heavy" for the standard.standard is just it. A loose term for the average.but there will always be the odd bigger one or smaller.its when people take the odd one and selective breed it over and over you get the modern day domestic dog. Without the "odd" one the domestic dog would not be here today.hes gorgeous so no worries!
 
#13 ·
Hi MrsMiaW,

thanks for sharing Rappex's weight.

i wonder how long ago the standard weight was determined? has the quality of food gotten that much better than in return we're getting bigger adult dogs?

Cody has eaten grain-free food (BB, TOTW) most of his puppyhood with Science Diet and Eukanaba sprinkled in for BM issues
 
#21 ·
I've heard about King Shepherds. 90-150 lbs

Arlo is 9 months and a little over 90 (92-93). His parents an easy 110. I prefer the bigger dogs.

No idea where our 10 week old female weighs in at..
wow!!!! 92 @ 9 months!!! that is huge Adam. is you're part king shepherd?

Cody is 1/2 working line, 1/2 pet line, but def not king.
 
#22 ·
When I first got Nara 3 years ago, the weight range WAS a part of the AKC standard on their website. They have since removed the weight range for whatever reason.

As for why your GSD is so big, well, some breeders breed oversized dogs intentionally because of public demand. They are usually in it for profit and could care less about the potential negative side effects on an oversized dog's health and well-being. Paw Paw, my husky, is 64 lbs of solid muscle, and a male husky shouldn't be more than 60 lbs, so he's also oversized. People always ask me if he's a malamute, but I let them know that mals are twice the size of Paw Paw. I found out that his breeder called him the "runt of the litter" and laughed at how small he was, so she was one of these breeders breeding for oversized dogs way above the standard. I'm not saying your breeder does this, but you asked why your dog is so big, and this might be why.
 
#23 ·
hello counter, thanks for your thoughts. I know his dad weighs 100. his dad is all pet line GSD. His mom is 75-80 and from what folks on here say and my trainer is like top notch DDR/czech working line.

based on your theory, id say the dad was the one bred to be oversized...but as you said. i dont know if it was intentional. the breeder has titled sch dogs and is responsible based on my knowledge
 
#26 ·
Who cares about standard.
People who care about preserving the breed as a working dog, for one. Being oversized prevents them from being the all-around utilitarian working dog they were intended to be. There's a reason that the majority of herding dogs, guide dogs, service dogs, police dogs, search and rescue dogs, and other dogs that work for a living aren't 120lb.

Being over standard doesn't make a dog a bad pet, but if you want to preserve the breed as a whole as an all-purpose working dog, the standard size is there for a reason.

(In B4 somebody points out their friend who has a mastiff SAR dog or St Bernard service dog or their uncle's cousin's baby's mama's 140lb GSD who herds sheep.)
 
#29 ·
Josh I don't know if your dog is neutered yet? When we had Niko done he was 86 lbs. Post neuter (about two months later) we had him weighed again and he's lost about 6 lbs. (Insert lewd comment here).

Anyway, he hasn't gained the weight back yet. He's a bit over 28 inches though, so he's out of standard there anyway. :(

I was surprised Niko was out of standard, both his parents and shown in conformation and within standard. His dad is about 90 lbs.

As far as food quality, I don't know if that would have an impact on the final dimensions of the adult. I think it might make for a more healthy adult who reaches his full potential, but if the genes for height and weight are not there, you will not get a bigger dog unless growth hormones are added. Hmmm, and we add growth hormones to our food supply, so maybe we ARE adding them to our dog's food... Something to think about.
 
#30 ·
hi good karma....Cody got nuetered at 8 months. intesting thoughts about the food. i guess we never know.

denali, thanks for the thoughts, not really worried, but more curious than anything
 
#33 ·
He looks good to me. I think the weight standard is more of a guideline and it really depends on how your dog looks. He's certainly not fat by any stretch. Just a big boy.
 
#35 ·
LOL! Maybe Wolfie is just weird.. I was going to add to my response that Chiefy was 120 at his biggest. He was overweight. He finally settled in at 105 being his ideal weight. Wolfie as of about a month ago was 81 lbs. The vet thinks that he will be between 100 and 120.