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#81 ·
I constantly forget how nice, compassionate, respectful, the people on this forum on.

Mostly when they're calling other people names and being extremely passive aggressive. Others choose to take their negative comments about others to Facebook.

Such good people we have on this forum, theyve never disrespected anyone or broken any laws. It's so amazing they've all come together in one place to discuss how perfectly they live their lives.
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Says somebody, passive aggressively. lol
 
#82 ·
I've stepped in between a man and woman fighting (verbally) or tried to counsel a girlfriend in an abusive relationship. Thing is, as was mentioned earlier, it usually ends up they both turn on me. I was never physically attacked though! :eek:

Human beans we can be a crazy bunch. :crazy:

Calling the police is what I would do now a days too.

Stonevintage said:
Yea, I've stepped in more than a few times when I saw that a woman was about to get pounded by a drunk boyfriend. I would ask if she thought she was safe. If she said no, dummy me became Catwoman or something. Trying to get her out of fist distance until the cops arrived.

Worked out ok except for once, not so much. The guy was apparently on crack too - he picked me up and threw me into a car and body slammed the door. Problem was my foot got quite shattered as it had not made it past the edge of the door.

Now, I just call the cops:)
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#83 ·
The only negative comments I get about Sinister are "he's too big", "he's too hairy" and "is he a black lab?"

If someone said something rude about his appearance then I would say something equally as rude about their own appearance. :mad:
 
#84 ·
martemchik said:
Or they're just being objective. Sometimes people need to be told things that are true even though they might hurt.

The guy was the trainer, there's nothing wrong with telling it how it is. Especially in a sport like Schutzhund, people will do that. I think it's even worse to do the complete opposite, blow smoke up someone's you know what and make them think their dog is better than it really is. Usually leads to them talking like the dog is amazing even though everyone else can see that the dog is not that good.

Holland (poster) is in Europe, the trainers over there are a lot more ruthless than what you'll find in the United States and in general Europeans tend to tell the straight truth more than Americans, we're the ones that tend to go home crying and complaining on an Internet forum when someone says something mean to us. A lot of people don't even want to deal with subpar dogs, it's a waste of not just the trainers time, but also the other group members.

I'm also just talking in general, never met the dog, don't know how she actually was, or why exactly the trainer said that...but it's really not all that rare in the Schutzhund game, or even the dog world...people are objective and will tell it like it is.
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Point taken and understood...I just think sometimes just like Thumper says, "If you don't have nothing nice to say, dont' say it at all". Very childish I know but I also agree with not giving people false hopes either. I would have been more around the lines of, "She is a good dog, but she still needs some work" or whatever something like that. But that's just me. I try to be empathetic and put myself in other people's shoes. But I understand it might be a little different in a training session. But for me, if someone talked to me like that and I'm paying you, ya that would be the last session.
 
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#85 ·
There is a time when we must stand up for ourselves and others. I just don't feel that someone voicing their opinion on my dog being a purebred or mutt, be it idiotic to me or not, is a time to make a stand.

I won't disregard age or the mental/physical health of a human being if they choose to break rules set for the courteous. I won't teach my child to do so either. I'm not walking in their shoes (just yet!) and I'm blessed not to be. It may cause a slight disruption to my day which may result in me feeling a little cross. But it suits me better to keep my temper and brave it out for the moment then to become a coward and belittle an old lady in front of a crowd and enjoy the fact the crowd chimed in as well.
 
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Girl_Loves_Hydraulics said:
Point taken and understood...I just think sometimes just like Thumper says, "If you don't have nothing nice to say, dont' say it at all". Very childish I know but I also agree with not giving people false hopes either. I would have been more around the lines of, "She is a good dog, but she still needs some work" or whatever something like that. But that's just me. I try to be empathetic and put myself in other people's shoes. But I understand it might be a little different in a training session. But for me, if someone talked to me like that and I'm paying you, ya that would be the last session.
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I wouldn't talk to anyone like that either (as a trainer)...and that would for sure be my last session with a trainer if they spoke like that to me. But if you think about it, that was probably the trainer's goal.

But yes, in the training world, especially in clubs, there are limited resources and generally the people helping (helpers/TDs) aren’t getting compensated a lot for it. So it’s really up to them what they think is worth their time. Most clubs are also limited in the amount of people that they accept, and yes, we need to accept new people into the sport, but if their dogs aren’t cut out for it, the TD/helper can’t be spending that much time on a dog when other people that are more likely to achieve their goals are waiting.

There are also plenty of trainers that will take your money, work with your dog, knowing you’ll never achieve anything, and keep doing it. Some people are fine with that, others…probably think that they’ll achieve a title in 2-3 years and then end up finding out they won’t. So then the money they paid weekly/monthly is at the end of the day a waste and the person probably feels pretty ripped off.

That being said…I work with a lot of people/dogs that will more than likely never achieve any Schutzhund titling and we still help them as much as we can, so until you have enough people wanting to do it, it’s not actually a problem.
 
#88 ·
shepherdmom said:
How can anyone be anything but passive aggressive on here? Full on aggression will get you booted. It's the only way to fight back when attacked :)
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What do you mean people get attacked here?!?!

According to this thread, people are understanding, compassionate, polite, respectful, and very forgiving on this forum.

We don't have those ignorant, intolerant, rude, and aggressive people here...
 
#89 ·
It's very sad that it's become a pattern of people taking a thread and making it into some sort of debate monster. Everyone here is an individual, which means we won't have the same opinions or views on the world. You don't have to like it, that's the beauty of it! But people have a lack of respect of other people, and no matter how you try to justify it, it doesn't make it right. It's never "What you say" it's "How you say it". You can correct people in a matter without coming off as a complete jerk and still being respectful of them as a person. Of course that doesn't mean that everyone you try that with will be thankful of that, but at least you know that you did it in a way that was mature and helpful. Just like Emmett said, "You don't have to be the bad guy". OK that was just a funny to break up all these darn seriousness. Come on people, let's get along!
 
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Lilie said:
It may cause a slight disruption to my day which may result in me feeling a little cross. But it suits me better to keep my temper and brave it out for the moment then to become a coward and belittle an old lady in front of a crowd and enjoy the fact the crowd chimed in as well.
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Or maybe the fact the rest of the crowd chimed in shows how badly that person was behaving. Probably the 50 other old ladies and men in line waiting their turn and the 25 little kids and their parents waiting their turn had a point.

I'd much rather confront someone to their face than talk about them behind their back on facebook.
 
#93 ·
shepherdmom said:
Or maybe the fact the rest of the crowd chimed in shows how badly that person was behaving. Probably the 50 other old ladies and men in line waiting their turn and the 25 little kids and their parents waiting their turn had a point.

I'd much rather confront someone to their face than talk about them behind their back on facebook.
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Perhaps, perhaps not. It all depends on how you look at your own actions.

I wasn't aware anything can be stated behind anyone's back on FB.
 
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#94 ·
Facebook is the place to be when you want to start secret groups to talk about things behind anyone else's back. I know of a few personally where you have to be "voted in" by other members to participate!

I've actually gotten a few negative comments about my dogs in front of me before. I was told that I wouldn't be able to title Aiden by a few people in the sport. No one was blatantly rude, but they were honest with their opinions of what I was capable of with him. I never had to say anything again after we retired him IPO3 x 2, FH.

I still get comments from some people about how they'd "never own a coated dog because of xyz" which I always find to be a strange comment to say to someone who clearly owns a coated dog. But I don't really care half the time. My coated dog is a lot more awesome than the dogs owned by the people who have the negative comments anways ;)
 
#96 ·
LaRen616 said:
Those exist, who knew?
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I'm not surprised. What surprises me is that people have so much time on their hands. Or rather, that they are willing to give up so much of their time.

Other than this forum, email, and shopping on Amazon, I don't spend time online. I would rather spend my time living my life than yammering on the computer. And in my opinion, I spend too much time here, anyway.
 
#98 ·
LaRen616 said:
Those exist, who knew?
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We can start our own secret club. A place where true friends can go and talk about any random thing they wish. Oh, I don't know...maybe stuff from gardens to goats. Or even grandkids to horses! Gotta be able to throw in a random John Deer tractor and a feral hog to boot!

Wouldn't that be fun! ;)
 
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Lilie said:
We can start our own secret club. A place where true friends can go and talk about any random thing they wish. Oh, I don't know...maybe stuff from gardens to goats. Or even grandkids to horses! Gotta be able to throw in a random John Deer tractor and a feral hog to boot!

Wouldn't that be fun! ;)
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That sounds like a blast! Hurry up and make the group and then add me! ;)
 
#100 ·
Gwenhwyfair said:
Same with some clubs IRL, including dog sport clubs. Sometimes good performance works against you if you perform better then the lead members.....

We do not live in a meritocracy, sadly.


(Hi to you also. I hope you and your family are healing and doing well)
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Hello, thank you for thinking of us! We are doing well, can't believe months have passed by already. :shocked:
 
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