100-100-100 300p

 

lol...ok who was the dog-and trainer-and did the trainer have OCD?

 

300 is the potential

Enno Antrefftal BSP 299 (Fritz Biehler)

Drigon Fuhrmannshof BSP 299 (Fritz Biehler)

they got there because Biehler understood the dog's heritage , Enno being a Frei son -- knew how to bring the dog up , lots of active aggression (fight drive) , yet very trainable and a thinking dog. This is what current sport neglects .
Same with Enno's son Drigon . This was not training . This was their genetic inheritance , Frei passed it on , Enno passed it on , Drigon passed it on.
Another Enno son Falk Eichendorfschule BSP 298

 

Mutz Kosakenwald at a club trial. Handler Rainer Kölblin

One of the Staatsmacht dogs did several years ago. Can't remember which one.

 

Is that dog Enno a Showlines dog? I really like his looks

 

Club trials don't count. But yes all good IPO handlers and trainers have OCD.

 

Club trials don't count. But yes all good IPO handlers and trainers have OCD.

I'll bet you change your mind about that, once you've trialed a dog.

 

well Mutz did well at the BSP as well - SG I believe third place - score maybe 196?

Hey Cliff , you would appreciate this .
Back in the day , a friend who had my dogs and did co-operative breeding - good for her needs, good for mine , had many opportunities to hang out at Paul Hombach's place . Paul had Fritz Biehler there - selling him Enno Antrefftal . I actually did a breeding to one of the very last Enno sons -- the "thing" with Biehler is that he knew dogs and could train a hard dog and could train a softer dog.
Enno powerful powerful dog -- hard bites.
This friend of mine also took the dogs out with her when she hung out with the Vollrath family. Great decoys . Lots of wisdom gained.

Now they want this hyper speed . A GSD is not a malinois.
I love a good working dog no matter what breed . I love a good malinois and had the opportunity to be in close training contact with several - super-top French ring competitors . I love a good beauceron - have seen them .
But each breed is distinct and should not become the other.

 

well Mutz did well at the BSP as well - SG I believe third place - score maybe 196?

Hey Cliff , you would appreciate this .
Back in the day , a friend who had my dogs and did co-operative breeding - good for her needs, good for mine , had many opportunities to hang out at Paul Hombach's place . Paul had Fritz Biehler there - selling him Enno Antrefftal . I actually did a breeding to one of the very last Enno sons -- the "thing" with Biehler is that he knew dogs and could train a hard dog and could train a softer dog.
Enno powerful powerful dog -- hard bites.
This friend of mine also took the dogs out with her when she hung out with the Vollrath family. Great decoys . Lots of wisdom gained.

Now they want this hyper speed . A GSD is not a malinois.
I love a good working dog no matter what breed . I love a good malinois and had the opportunity to be in close training contact with several - super-top French ring competitors . I love a good beauceron - have seen them .
But each breed is distinct and should not become the other.

Amen to that.

 

Wow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h50zMDSxITw

 

I think the judging of today is entirely more difficult than it was when the two previously mentioned dogs were trialing, so that should be taken into account. I've never personally seen a dog get a perfect overall score, club level or higher, but I have seen a few come close. I know its just a "club level" score, but Carma put up 98-98-97 for her IPO1 and I was pretty happy about it.

 

Congratulations on that . . you need to get one of those bumper stickers thay says "my dog is smarter then your honor student". When are you doing IPO2?

 

That same channel has his obedience too. Pretty cool, 1974.

 

That video really shows how standards have changed. Take today's V scoring dogs, judge them under yesterday's standards, you'll have a lot of close to perfect scores.

 

A Rottweiler, Pascha Vom Hegestrauch had a 300 in the early 90's.

 

nope - also -- besides you can't compare club level with BSP , which Frei , Enno, Drigon, Falk, and Aco Burg Esch -- all related sons and grandsons of Frei .

Biehler commented that these were thinking dogs.
Some people now don't want the dog to think . They want a reliable automaton , every action programmed .

 

Don't get me wrong the titles count but close to perfect scores like that at club trials are always taken with a huge grain of salt

 

Always? By who? People who've never trialed a dog? I doubt you still feel that way once you've trialed. I still bet you'll have a different appreciation of it.

 

depends on the judge !

that is one of the problems with looking at scores at the lower levels .

went to a trial 2 weeks ago judged by Raino Fluegge , who judged it as if it were Nationals --- tough .

2 weeks prior to that judging with other judge
was haphazard - no comparison whatsoever

 

Carmen, I bred a Champion Beejays Gentle Ben daughter to the Enno son Arko vom Rossbach. Arko was imported from Germany after placing second in LGA in Germany. Ben was a Lance son.....I got my first dog that went to PD out of this litter...Deleware State Police...around1979. I am well aware of the value of Enno and his sire and progeny.

 

Yes, in some trials, with some judges.. People get gifts, no doubt.. But there are a lot of judges that don't give points away and judge club trials pretty tough.

I know the UScA judges I've trialed under have had a sharp pencil, but, were consistent across the board..

 

My first GSD's sire (working line) had two 100s, one in protection, I want to say it was 100-90something-100. That was in Germany (he was imported, titled). I have no idea what "level" of trial. I never met him but would have liked to, based on what his owner told me, he sounded like the type of dog I like. Unfortunately his daughter that I had (given to me by a breeder as an adult/retired from breeding) was not like him and did not do SchH, but still a fun dog to train and title.