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I have always been curious to know when the GSD split from being one breed to one that has multiple and distinct lines all with very different characteristics? What happened and why?

Was it always that way but just not known? Has globalization and technology made everyone more aware of differences that have always been within the breed? Random thoughts... : )
 
there was a split pretty much from the start.
"Breed" being a relatively new concept , where external uniformity is a priority . Dogs have always been at work and regions , having slightly different needs , would have type familiar to that area, because it functioned well, it worked.
Phylax society was for breeding a wolf-like looking dog with reliably erect ears.
Benched events for comparison and competition began , some things sacrificed to achieve a look , problems result ,and the working dogs are called on to correct things again.
 
I have always been curious to know when the GSD split from being one breed to one that has multiple and distinct lines all with very different characteristics? What happened and why?

Was it always that way but just not known? Has globalization and technology made everyone more aware of differences that have always been within the breed? Random thoughts... : )
In reference to your query......RSV2000 .:. German Shepherd lines are genetically different


I posted this a month or two ago.....found it interesting.

SuperG
 
Those are Finnish shepherds, it would be interesting to see a study of how those are different from German lines and American lines.
Yes, that would be very interesting. Ever since I started looking into purebred dogdom (which has been a very recent phenomena), I thought that the AKC was sitting on a huge untapped opportunity to monetize the data set they currently have, or could dictate receiving as part of the registration process. And, I suspect, if they were to move in that direction, they could off-set their dependence on registration fees which have, IMO, led them down the path of being an obstacle to healthy breeding programs.
 
Greed, politics, and money - the root of all evil - has ruined this breed.
There's a few more you left out: Ignorance, mismatching of species, breeding for color, breeding the largest to the largest, angulation preferences, the list could continue but I love my dog, flaw's included. It's not her fault of human intervention. Let's go for a walk, it's daybreak in CA. :wild: You know how I know it's daybreak, the bird's outside my window are singing !

SGCSG
 
Mismatching of species?

David Winners
 
Those are Finnish shepherds, it would be interesting to see a study of how those are different from German lines and American lines.
Finnish Shepherds ??? Yes, the study took place in Finland and used 62 GSDs from Finland but is a "Finnish Shepherd" a variation?... or simply transplanted dogs from somewhere else in Europe?

SuperG
 
Mismatching of species?

David Winners
Good morning David !!,

Just back from an hour walk, 5:45 - 6:53 - looking for sticks to chew on.. Found three.

I think I meant breed choice of pairs and mixing of breeds: a.k.a. mutts.

It's all good here, 6 months 63.5 lb. female. Training fair, working as hard as I can, for a Navy Sailor Guy, (that's a navy joke we spoke about 3 months ago).

Worked up a good morning sweat, re-hydrating with arrowhead water, looking for some love and acceptance, in this World of ammo, frauds, cons and thieve's. I think for the most part I got it covered... lol

Stay strong !!

SGCSG
 
Thank you for explaining my tail set question, Anne :)

I have another question, which might seem silly but it's something I've often wondered: I know the GSDs that do win might not be to the liking of some, but what are the siblings like? I'm curious about that, because my dog is SL, and he had a noticeably different shape from some of his littermates. The breeder knew which puppies she wanted to keep back specifically for showing and he wasn't shaped the same way as they were. So, I was wondering if the GSDs chosen specifically for the show ring are truly a representation of what those entire lines are producing - if that makes sense?
 
Finnish Shepherds ??? Yes, the study took place in Finland and used 62 GSDs from Finland but is a "Finnish Shepherd" a variation?... or simply transplanted dogs from somewhere else in Europe?

SuperG
IDK, :laugh: I'm a pet person. I know there are Czech lines, West German lines, DDR lines, Swiss lines, American lines..... I guess I was just assuming there was a Fin line. :eek:
 
Good morning David !!,

Just back from an hour walk, 5:45 - 6:53 - looking for sticks to chew on.. Found three.

I think I meant breed choice of pairs and mixing of breeds: a.k.a. mutts.

It's all good here, 6 months 63.5 lb. female. Training fair, working as hard as I can, for a Navy Sailor Guy, (that's a navy joke we spoke about 3 months ago).

Worked up a good morning sweat, re-hydrating with arrowhead water, looking for some love and acceptance, in this World of ammo, frauds, cons and thieve's. I think for the most part I got it covered... lol

Stay strong !!

SGCSG
Sounds like a great morning! Glad to hear you're doing well :)

David Winners
 
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