I'm from Germany and here's my take on it:

White Shepherds are called "Berger Blanc Suisse" or "Weißer Schweizer Schäferhund" here.
White Shepherds are not accepted by the SV - hence white ones can't be called GSDs.
They are however recognized as a several breed by the FCI since 2011.
Not sure why there's such a problem with a recognized FCI breed in Sweden...

 

It can be really confusing. What are the sire and dam registered as?

 

They are not registrated in the "official" dog club in Sweden.
The father is in Denmark and is registrated as a Shepherd / Schäfer.

The mother is not registarted as she is not allowed in. She is registarted in the unofficial tho.

 

What is the "dog government" and what exactly are you trying to get out of registering your dog? Do you need to register your dog with the actual government for some reason and they just want it registered as a mixed breed?

Are you talking about a breed club? They have strict-ish rules on what can and can't be registered and I think your biggest issue right now is that the dam was never registered. Are you trying to get it registered with a registry like FCI? Sounds like since the mother was never registered its highly unlikely your pup will ever be allowed to be registered with FCI as a purebred as they can't prove that its pure due to the mother's questionable pedigree.

Really not sure if its a lost in translation type of thing but you keep saying you can't call your dog this or that...you can call your dog whatever you want, not sure what that has to do with the government. So if you can explain what it means that you can't call your dog something and you want to...

 

If the bitch is not registered with an accepted kennel club, than the pup really shouldn't be registered. But I agree. It is very confusing. If two GSDs hook up and create a litter with a white one, how does that make the white one a Berger Blanc Swisse or however you spell it? A masking gene should not create a separate breed of dog.

I think the SV is all wet on this, and I think the AKC has this right. Register the dogs as GSDs, and just discourage breeding by not allowing them in the conformation ring. Allow them in all other venues. Great pets. Train them, socialize them, take them out and herd with them, do obedience, agility, rally, schutzhund -- whatever floats your boat. But don't breed them. And if you have to breed them, you are breeding for pets, not for conformation show dogs. In the AKC white ones can be bred, and can provide full registration. The white ones just cannot be shown in conformation, which is true of livers and blues.

How does the SV handle blues or livers? Do they have a Berger Blu Swisse?

 

If two GSDs hook up and create a litter with a white one, how does that make the white one a Berger Blanc Swisse or however you spell it? A masking gene should not create a separate breed of dog.

No, no, no, I think you got it wrong!
If two GSDs create a litter with a white pup, this pup ist still a GSD. But due to the fact that white is a color error, one is not allowed to breed this white GSD (even though it might have a pedigree and so on).

The Berger Blanc Suisse is a seperate breed! It has nothing to do with GSDs. At least here in Germany...

 

That makes sense.

I thought that the white ones had such a following that they started registering them as Berger Blanc Suisses and went through the process of creating a breed for White GSDs.

I think in Germany, the strict guidlines on breeding have made the color pretty much extinct there from GSD litters. In the US, the color is very much alive.

 

If you havent noticed Im a rookie when it comes to the dog world. I am trying to learn as much as possible.

Im not intrested in registrating my pup or anything of that sort. I just want to KNOW.

The father is FCI registarted.
The mother is registarted in a breed club. Not in SKK (SKK = Swedish FCI).
The mother has it's history registarted 3 generations back. This is the 5th generation pup I got.

I could apply and try to get the pup into SKK.. tho not everyone gets in.

 

I'm even more lost at what you're looking for at this point. So you just want to know what to call your dog? Call it a White German Shepherd. If someone **** tells you otherwise, move on and don't argue. If there is a more knowledgeable culture in Sweden about the difference between whites and regulars than you might run into more of these people than you'd like, but I'm pretty sure the majority of people aren't going to question whatever breed you want to call your dog.

 

I say, Move to the US and call it a white German Shepherd. Works for me.

 

lol.

I say, Move to the US and call it a white German Shepherd. Works for me.

 

AKC has it wrong. If Max Von Stephanitz said "No good dog is a bad color" and didn't mind the white ones then how can the AKC step in and say they can't be in the conformation ring. As far as the SV not accepting it, wasn't that Hitler's view. He didn't think whites made good war dogs.

 

The AKC didn't made the decision to put the disqualifying fault on the white coated GSD, a change in the breed standard was voted on by members of the German Shepherd Dog Club of America in the late 1960's. Previous to that the whites were allowed in the AKC ring.

If two GSDs hook up and create a litter with a white one, how does that make the white one a Berger Blanc Swisse or however you spell it? A masking gene should not create a separate breed of dog.

That's not how it works. How the dogs are registered depends on their pedigrees, not just the fact that their coats are white. The confusion happens because the criteria changes from country to country.

I think the SV is all wet on this, and I think the AKC has this right. Register the dogs as GSDs, and just discourage breeding by not allowing them in the conformation ring.

Again, this has nothing to do with the AKC, they don't make decisions about breed standards. Removing the whites from the ring didn't discourage breeding, I think it had the opposite affect which is why we now have White Shepherds and Berger Blanc Suisse. People like what they like.
If the GSDCA changed the standard tomorrow making black and tans a disqualifying fault, would you stop breeding them?