LOL, thanks guys. Really I started the van/car kennel thing out of necessity, because of how much we train and travel, my personal opinions on dogs being safely crated during travel and safely crated at Schutzhund/training when not working, and because my house is so small I don't even have room for everyone to have a crate or to have "quiet" areas of the house. Also, most of my friends and family are not dog people (allergic, don't like dogs, got bit by a GSD, etc) and I try to be sensitive to them when I invite people over. If you just drop by I'm not going to kick the dogs out but when we have company I usually put some or all of the dogs out in the van, at least part of the time. My friend is coming over soon and the dogs are put up with raw marrow bones. Don't get me wrong, my puppies usually have MORE freedom than most GSDs puppies I know and I'm not locking them out in the car most of the day, but for me it's just essential that if nothing else, they MUST be able to settle and relax in a crate, in a vehicle (moving or stationary). I actually opens up a lot more opportunities for us to travel with our dogs. For example my MIL and FIL also have a smaller home and it's not fair for all my dogs to take over if we want to visit, so I can crate them in my van inside their large garage instead of having to haul crates indoors or worry about them destroying someone else's house. Same thing at the cottage we rent every summer, WAY too small for dog crates (it's a two bedroom one bathroom and we usually have about 12 adults plus kids and their friends). But my mom lets me bring my dogs if I keep them out in the van. I open it all up, park under a tree, and we alternate between taking them on hikes, biking, swimming, etc and resting in the van. At night I do bring them indoors for safety but during the day it's too crazy. My Schutzhund dogs are especially comfortable in the van and do not stand up and bark at people passing by. I guess they'd probably bark if a stranger came in the van but they mostly understand the van = sleep. The crates in the van have the nicest bedding, water buckets, and I've set it up so that it's always comfortably ventilated, never to cold or hot.