[Stosh]

I talked to the local dealer for Nature's Select. He said that 90% of the ingredients are sourced within 200 miles of the plant in Mt Pleasant TX. The lamb is from New Zealand.

 

[canyadoit]

Taste of the wild from MO

 

[Appi]

Food products "made" in the USA are nothing to brag about. 75% of the country's chicken and 90% of the country's turkey tests positive for antibiotic resistant bacteria. The beef does too but so far not in the meat. The only reason why the cows are alive at slaughter is because they are filled with antibiotics.

All the hogs, cows, chickens, ducks and turkey eat GMO corn or soy that now is engineered to make Bt Toxin. Bt Toxin is showing up in fetal blood samples.

All the vegetables you buy here, fruit as well, are tasteless and covered in nicotine-based pesticides. Italy outlawed them a few years back and the bee colonies recovered.

I am as patriotic as anyone, but buying dog food because it is made in the USA doesn't impress me, Canada either.

I would be much more inclined to use a food actually made in Europe. Food standards and husbandry practices in Italy and France are much higher than the US or Canada.

 

[lalachka]

kr16 and appi, i almost wish you didn't post this. sometimes ignorance really is bliss.

so what do you guys do? buy orgabic?

is organic really organic? or one of those labeling scams,, like 'it has to say made and sourced in the usa' to be sure it's really from usa.

besides, I can't afford to feed my dog organic.

and selzer, yes, it is indeed a racket

 

[llombardo]

kr16 and appi, i almost wish you didn't post this. sometimes ignorance really is bliss.

so what do you guys do? buy orgabic?

is organic really organic? or one of those labeling scams,, like 'it has to say made and sourced in the usa' to be sure it's really from usa.

besides, I can't afford to feed my dog organic.

and selzer, yes, it is indeed a racket

It is quite depressing

 

[Momto2GSDs]

kr16 and appi, i almost wish you didn't post this. sometimes ignorance really is bliss.

so what do you guys do? buy orgabic?

is organic really organic? or one of those labeling scams,, like 'it has to say made and sourced in the usa' to be sure it's really from usa.

besides, I can't afford to feed my dog organic.

and selzer, yes, it is indeed a racket

There are 53 ingredients in "Newmans Own ORGANIC'S"....of the 53 only 10 are Organic! The FDA loophole is that there are "some" organics, so they are allowed to use these "words".

If it's all Organic, it will bear the Organic Seal.
There is no Organic Kibble to my knowledge. Only a food like The Honest Kitchen Dehydrated Food, which is the ONLY pet food company that the FDA legally allows to use the words "Human Grade Ingredients" on it's packaging and advertising. That is as close as you'll get unless you make your own.

Moms

 

[llombardo]

There are 53 ingredients in "Newmans Own ORGANIC'S"....of the 53 only 10 are Organic! The FDA loophole is that there are "some" organics, so they are allowed to use these "words".

If it's all Organic, it will bear the Organic Seal.
There is no Organic Kibble to my knowledge. Only a food like The Honest Kitchen Dehydrated Food, which is the ONLY pet food company that the FDA legally allows to use the words "Human Grade Ingredients" on it's packaging and advertising. That is as close as you'll get unless you make your own.

Moms

And if you make your own, the ingredients are apparently no better.

 

[Momto2GSDs]

And if you make your own, the ingredients are apparently no better.

True, in that sense. But wouldn't feeding a higher quality meat be better than what is contained in some of these dog foods?

I can't afford to eat 100% Organic myself, so I'm sure not gonna buy it for my dogs. But I feel I'm giving them a better chance by feeding them the same food we're eating.
Ultimately, everyone has to investigate and decide what they can do with what they can afford.

Moms

 

[Nikitta]

Wow, I am completely depressed about MY food much less what my dogs eat.

 

[Ace GSD]

Seems like Raw is the only way you can fully control what gets inside your dog... but then you need supplements and that we wont know

 

[llombardo]

Seems like Raw is the only way you can fully control what gets inside your dog... but then you need supplements and that we wont know

Not really. As posted earlier the meats in this country are banned in other countries because of all the bad stuff that is added, then add vitamins and stuff that comes from China. The reality is that none of it is good for our dogs or us. Unless you raise your own meat source, you really just don't know.

 

[kr16]

kr16 and appi, i almost wish you didn't post this. sometimes ignorance really is bliss.

so what do you guys do? buy orgabic?

is organic really organic? or one of those labeling scams,, like 'it has to say made and sourced in the usa' to be sure it's really from usa.

besides, I can't afford to feed my dog organic.

and selzer, yes, it is indeed a racket

I use Orijen or Acana. Canada bans some of the crap we use in our food. They use hormones like we do. I just do not get why we use dyes in all our food and drugs. Why does my prescription pills need to be bright colored? The USA abuses dye and sugar in all our foods.

I agree Europe is better on all foods. I just got back, everything is not as sweet and tastes better.

Here is a food from Italy that just came to the states last year.

Farmina Pet Foods - Happy pet. Happy You. | Happy pet. Happy you.

 

[llombardo]

When my son was in Europe studying abroad for business one of the tours was a meat processing plant. He said it was super clean.

 

[Ace GSD]

Not really. As posted earlier the meats in this country are banned in other countries because of all the bad stuff that is added, then add vitamins and stuff that comes from China. The reality is that none of it is good for our dogs or us. Unless you raise your own meat source, you really just don't know.

Its like horror movie hahaa

 

[lalachka]

There are 53 ingredients in "Newmans Own ORGANIC'S"....of the 53 only 10 are Organic! The FDA loophole is that there are "some" organics, so they are allowed to use these "words".

If it's all Organic, it will bear the Organic Seal.
There is no Organic Kibble to my knowledge. Only a food like The Honest Kitchen Dehydrated Food, which is the ONLY pet food company that the FDA legally allows to use the words "Human Grade Ingredients" on it's packaging and advertising. That is as close as you'll get unless you make your own.

Moms

Oh I feed raw so I was taking about meat. I didn't know about the stuff they do to meat.

 

[lalachka]

I use Orijen or Acana. Canada bans some of the crap we use in our food. They use hormones like we do. I just do not get why we use dyes in all our food and drugs. Why does my prescription pills need to be bright colored? The USA abuses dye and sugar in all our foods.

I agree Europe is better on all foods. I just got back, everything is not as sweet and tastes better.

Here is a food from Italy that just came to the states last year.

Farmina Pet Foods - Happy pet. Happy You. | Happy pet. Happy you.

I feed raw. I'm just depressed about what gets done to meat and chicken. How do you feed yourself? Do you buy organic? Is organic even really organic and free of additives and antibiotics and aren't fed stuff with antibiotics and whatever else they use for plumpness and color?

Even if it is, I couldn't feed him organic meat. But maybe I'd buy organic for us then


ETA lol good point about pills and coloring
And why are hormones used in meat? What do they do? Weight?

 

[Appi]

Farmina N&D which is imported from Italy is now available in the US. Italy banned the cultivation of GMO crops over 15 years ago and the company is one of the very few to submit the country of origin of ingredients to Susan Thixton on TruthAboutPetFood.com.

It is also 1 of 20 foods on her Most Trusted List. The food also publishes animal protein content on an "as fed" basis, which is very rare. It is even in the GA.

I am using the Chicken Grain Free and it is great stuff. Chewy.com and SportDogFood.com carry it but I get in Livingston, NJ.

Anyone interested, make sure you read the USA website unless you are fluent in Italian,

Grain-Free Chicken Recipe | Farmina Pet Foods - Happy pet. Happy You.

It is also the only food I have ever seen actually labelled GMO Free.

 

[Jax08]

Victor is GMO free.

lala - farmed meat often has antibiotics in is. I get most of my meat from local butchers so it's basically scraps that the owner of the animal being butchered did not want. That is the best way to avoid that.

 

[Stosh]

I get all of our beef, chicken, pork, eggs and cheese from a local ranch. They just recently opened a store. And as many vegetables as they raise in their garden. I sometimes buy Smart Chicken since I can get it at the grocery store. I think I'll have to try Victor again. Stosh wasn't interested in it the first time we tried it but he may have to learn to love it. The plant is close enough that I can take a tour

 

[kr16]

I feed raw. I'm just depressed about what gets done to meat and chicken. How do you feed yourself? Do you buy organic? Is organic even really organic and free of additives and antibiotics and aren't fed stuff with antibiotics and whatever else they use for plumpness and color?

Even if it is, I couldn't feed him organic meat. But maybe I'd buy organic for us then


ETA lol good point about pills and coloring
And why are hormones used in meat? What do they do? Weight?

I do not buy organic, way to expensive. I wouldn't trust it anyhow. This is America, where companies do anything to maximize a profit. I have no answer. After having a dog die from Blue Buffalo I am real paranoid about dog food. We do not eat much red meat, so its not a huge concern. The chicken on the other hand is a concern.

Since the 1950s, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved a number of steroid hormone drugs for use in beef cattle and sheep, including natural estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and their synthetic versions. These drugs increase the animals’ growth rate, the efficiency by which they convert the feed they eat into meat, and the leanness of their meat