I've read somewhere (need to find where) that TOTW vitamins and minerals are sourced from China. That's the reason why we buy Fromm actually. I'll post if I can find it again...


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China-Free Dog Food? Don't Count on It

 

There are three dog food companies located in my area. Precise- says 'mostly' all ingredients are sourced in the US but don't say which ones aren't. Nature's Select is totally sourced in the US with the exception of lamb from New Zealand. The other company makes Victor. I've tried feeding Victor and Nature's Select but Stosh wasn't interested in either. I think I'll try again

 

Best Breed by Dr. Gary Cotton We tried Blue when Tess was a pup with not consistent results. Dr Gary's is local product so we tried it. Three years, and have yet to have any issues. This is from the website..." Further, all diets are produced in the U.S., in facilities that are both European Union approved and regularly inspected by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. To keep nutrient-destroying oxygen out and preserve freshness, our food is packaged in high oxygen barrier poly bags with resealable zippers. Absolutely NO ingredients are sourced from China."

 

This is scary...

China now makes
70 percent of the world’s penicillin
50 percent of the earth’s aspirin
35 percent of its acetaminophen (generic Tylenol)
The bulk of the world’s vitamins A, B12, C and E

If these are made in China, how are dog food companies making foods with these vitamins and stating made in the USA? If the vitamins come from China then the food is not completely made in the USA.

 

I think it is a game. If you buy a car from Mexico, it has to say, made in Mexico. But if you buy a car where 99% of the components are made and assembled in Mexico, but the put something like the windshield or the steering wheel in in the US, they can say, "Made in the USA." on it.

Sucks, huh?

I think the sourcing is about the same. I mean if ABC company is buying the vitamins and minerals from China and elsewhere and combining them into a pre-mix, so long as ABC company is in the US, then Diamond is sourcing the pre-mix from the US.

Yeah, even if Taste of the Wild was totally sourced in the US, it is still be extruded in machines that extrude ever other nasty bit of yuck from the worst garbage food on up. So if disease is your concern, than sourced in the US is not good enough. But I think we are worried about stuff like cardboard in Pizza and plastic in glutens that have come from China. And why we are so concerned about it.

As for the US, I think a lot of grains grown here are GMO, and so even that isn't good enough.

Dog food is a racket.

 

I think this topic Jax started is important. So much more to it thu. Companies lie and that is a problem.

Not sure whats so great about anything made in The USA. Most of our foods are banned all over the world. China even bans it. The meat used in dog food must be worse than the modified dye filled crap we eat. I do agree keep away from the Chinese products due to history of tainted foods. Good luck with that, they own America. I will stick with Canadian products for now. The best thing America makes is Guitars.


About 45 percent of US pigs, 30 percent of cattle and an unknown percentage of turkeys are plumped with the asthma drug ractopamine before slaughter. Up to 20 percent of ractopamine is still there when you buy it.

Since 1998, more than 1,700 US pork lovers have been “poisoned” this way. For this very health threat, ractopamine-laced meats are banned in 160 different countries! Russia issued a ban on US meat imports, effective February 11, 2013, until it’s certified ractopamine-free. In animals, it’s linked to reducedreproductive function, increased mastitis and increased death. It damages the human cardiovascular system and may cause hyperactivity, chromosomal abnormalities and behavioral changes. Currently, US meats aren’t even tested for it.

Where it’s banned: 160 countries across Europe, Russia, mainland China and Republic of China (Taiwan).

More than 3,000 preservatives, flavorings and colors are added to US foods, many of which are banned in other countries

Arsenic-Laced Chicken

Arsenic-based drugs are approved in US-produced animal feed because they cause animals to grow quicker and meats products to look pinker and “fresher.” The FDA says arsenic-based drugs are safe safe because they contain organic arsenic … But organic arsenic can turn into inorganic arsenic, run through contaminated manure and leach into drinking water.

The European Union has never approved using arsenic in animal feed; US environmental groups have sued the FDA to remove them.

 

The production company, who makes the dry kibble for the dog food company, chooses where they purchase their ingredients from, unless a very strict contract by the dog food company has been legally set forth, which usually is not the case. Those production companies end up purchasing most of their products from a third or even fourth party. Federal law requires food companies to be able to trace products one step forward and one step back so if they only check backwards one step, they may think they are purchasing from a US company but that US company may have purchased products from overseas!

MADE in the USA does NOT mean it was SOURCED in the USA. It would have to say MADE & SOURCED in the USA.

Moms

 

I talked to the local dealer for Nature's Select. He said that 90% of the ingredients are sourced within 200 miles of the plant in Mt Pleasant TX. The lamb is from New Zealand.

 

Taste of the wild from MO

 

Food products "made" in the USA are nothing to brag about. 75% of the country's chicken and 90% of the country's turkey tests positive for antibiotic resistant bacteria. The beef does too but so far not in the meat. The only reason why the cows are alive at slaughter is because they are filled with antibiotics.

All the hogs, cows, chickens, ducks and turkey eat GMO corn or soy that now is engineered to make Bt Toxin. Bt Toxin is showing up in fetal blood samples.

All the vegetables you buy here, fruit as well, are tasteless and covered in nicotine-based pesticides. Italy outlawed them a few years back and the bee colonies recovered.

I am as patriotic as anyone, but buying dog food because it is made in the USA doesn't impress me, Canada either.

I would be much more inclined to use a food actually made in Europe. Food standards and husbandry practices in Italy and France are much higher than the US or Canada.

 

kr16 and appi, i almost wish you didn't post this. sometimes ignorance really is bliss.

so what do you guys do? buy orgabic?

is organic really organic? or one of those labeling scams,, like 'it has to say made and sourced in the usa' to be sure it's really from usa.

besides, I can't afford to feed my dog organic.

and selzer, yes, it is indeed a racket

 

It is quite depressing

 

There are 53 ingredients in "Newmans Own ORGANIC'S"....of the 53 only 10 are Organic! The FDA loophole is that there are "some" organics, so they are allowed to use these "words".

If it's all Organic, it will bear the Organic Seal.
There is no Organic Kibble to my knowledge. Only a food like The Honest Kitchen Dehydrated Food, which is the ONLY pet food company that the FDA legally allows to use the words "Human Grade Ingredients" on it's packaging and advertising. That is as close as you'll get unless you make your own.

Moms

 

And if you make your own, the ingredients are apparently no better.

 

Wow, I am completely depressed about MY food much less what my dogs eat.

 

Seems like Raw is the only way you can fully control what gets inside your dog... but then you need supplements and that we wont know

 

Not really. As posted earlier the meats in this country are banned in other countries because of all the bad stuff that is added, then add vitamins and stuff that comes from China. The reality is that none of it is good for our dogs or us. Unless you raise your own meat source, you really just don't know.

 

When my son was in Europe studying abroad for business one of the tours was a meat processing plant. He said it was super clean.

 

Farmina N&D which is imported from Italy is now available in the US. Italy banned the cultivation of GMO crops over 15 years ago and the company is one of the very few to submit the country of origin of ingredients to Susan Thixton on TruthAboutPetFood.com.

It is also 1 of 20 foods on her Most Trusted List. The food also publishes animal protein content on an "as fed" basis, which is very rare. It is even in the GA.

I am using the Chicken Grain Free and it is great stuff. Chewy.com and SportDogFood.com carry it but I get in Livingston, NJ.

Anyone interested, make sure you read the USA website unless you are fluent in Italian,

Grain-Free Chicken Recipe | Farmina Pet Foods - Happy pet. Happy You.

It is also the only food I have ever seen actually labelled GMO Free.

 

Victor is GMO free.

lala - farmed meat often has antibiotics in is. I get most of my meat from local butchers so it's basically scraps that the owner of the animal being butchered did not want. That is the best way to avoid that.

 

I didn't know. Or rather, didn't want to know. Lol now I have no choice because I read all this. So I have to make some decisions for us and the dog.

ETA I doubt local butchers in nyc have their own cows. Though who knows. Will ask

 

I get all of our beef, chicken, pork, eggs and cheese from a local ranch. They just recently opened a store. And as many vegetables as they raise in their garden. I sometimes buy Smart Chicken since I can get it at the grocery store. I think I'll have to try Victor again. Stosh wasn't interested in it the first time we tried it but he may have to learn to love it. The plant is close enough that I can take a tour

 

farmers give their animals all kinds of wormers and antibiotics too :shrug:
visit any farm store to see which ones they commonly give
you can buy penicillin injections otc and also tylan and corid for cattle just to name a few

 

The ranchers I buy our meat and eggs from don't give hormones or antibiotics. One of the benefits of living in Texas