Pssst ...berno.Tarzan isn't a real person.

 

no, tarzan was a real guy?!? wasn't he? maybe that was conan? robin hood?

 

I don't see any reason to grill you berno on your breeding. Its not hard to tell where I stand based on my posts here. I doubt you find any good prospects from that breeding you did. I'd be willing the bet the price of a quality pup on it.

 

please define "good" BH

just kidding. As BH and I agreed earlier, it's not near as simple as 1+2 = schH3. You can't just put 2 dogs together and call it "improvement." You have to follow through. Whether or not I'll even keep back remains to be seen. Meanwhile, given the genetic potential involved, I am cautiously optimistic about what may be out in the box. They seem to be growing pretty good, so far.

And I'm here to be grilled, BH. That's the whole point. No offense intended, but this consortium is as close as I'm going to get to "peer review."

 

berno, the biggest piece of advice I can give you is to go to Mike at LHK and get a serous working dog. Then take that dog to PSA1. Live with it for 4 years, continually training, and then decide what you think is a good dog.

You are trying to be a chef without ever tasting good food. Trying to be an artist but only using coloring books. Trying to be a musician without ever listening to Dream Theater.

You have this picture in your head that has no basis in reality, and you are producing animals that may harm others and / or die because of your ignorance.

 

I have an 8 month old. Environmentally sound, social, highly confident, driven, intense in just about everything he does. Very pack oriented, easy to train. inquisitive, focused, little back down. Willing to bite anything he's allowed. Has a full grip you can feel through a competition sleeve. That is a good prospect to me.

 

Are you going to breed him to a poodle mix any time soon?

 

Had three LHK pups at club tonight. All very stable, social and very good prey drive. Still need training though. And the training has to be good. What is good for sport is probably not good for a police dog. A police dog doesn’t need a full, calm grip. You want an operationally apprehension dog to rebite anywhere if the dog looses the grip.

 

Mike strives for a particular dog.

And I agree that bite mechanics mean nothing to a dog on the street. Fight mechanics win.

 

Yes. With one of his good prospects, you can take the dog either way with the right training. He is honest in that some of his breedings are washouts because no breeder produces pups that are all good.

 

Mike is really honest about his dogs and has a good grasp on the sport and working worlds.

 

Berno,
I think you know what you are saying is mental masturbation. Don’t delete masturbation because it is normal. David said it well. It is analogous to the notion that you own a car and want to improve on the Maserati.

 

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I don't know, man? looking at these results, seems like gsd blood is doing quite a bit of the work and getting almost no credit. But if you guys are happy, I'm happy

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SCH is a GSD sport. The ring sports, PSA and MIL/LE venues are more Mal oriented, though there are successful GSDs in these venues as well.

 

I can't seem to find 2020 results? linux os, so search returns are always iffy... maybe cancelled this year? in terms of breeds by rank, looks like dobe/rott have been more or less less tied for 3rd lately...

 

All the major events for the most part have been cancelled.

 

IMO, Dobes and Rotts have been ruined and the GSD could go the same way.

 

I like both but neither has the coat I require. Winter is a long cold affair here. Anyway I got the lowdown on bsd. Minimum standard for a female is 22" 44lbs. Breeding is an art, and part of the art of breeding bsd is coaxing a medium breed from much smaller parentstocks. Kinda takes all the mystique out of it, right there, eh? All the gsd crossing and backbreeding is simply a matter of utility. I think my vet may have picked one up? I'll know soon enough.

 

had a little epiphany with these 50lb sacks of grain here today

even if a little 44lb female clamped onto your arm don't stop ya, she will slow ya down pretty good

 

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had a little epiphany with these 50lb sacks of grain here today

even if a little 44lb female clamped onto your arm don't stop ya, she will slow ya down pretty good

Just consider 44 pounds at 40 mph.

You just don't know what you don't know.

SF guys pick small dogs all the time.

 

This thread is a train wreck. And, like a train wreck, I can’t look away.

 

Ahhhh. But train wrecks are somewhat interesting.

 

 

did I forget to link the video?

@ like 3:00 stonie say he doesn't expect them to do anything

the good ones gonna sit @ that age when you tell it to. genetic obedience. the commands are hardwired. look 'em in the eye, tell 'em, try a hand signal, and praise when it happens. same with retrieve. same with walking on lead. It's never too early. just be gentle . I mean super, super gentle. Because they are fragile @ that age.

 

Did you skip the luring part of the video or what?

 

I’m having so many good laughs over this thread. Thank you all. We need humor,

 

as for the flirt rag, I like to keep it up off the ground. That forces the ones which want to work for me to use their teeth.

now this is important, so pay attention: some require drag, and want to step catch w/ the paw. Many of them pick it right up and turn out fine, perfectly normal.

but keep a very close eye on the one/s that just naturally, readily bite a flying target right off. Odds are that's the pick, or one of the picks

 

not because a flying bite is "so cool"

only because that inherent tendency tends to suggest other inherent tendencies

 

berno, do you know how Stonnie used to pick mals when he was into bite work?

 

I don't know nothin' 'bout stonie

but I KNOW breeders are lurking who know a lot more than me

and I wish they'd speak up

 

Berno I think you’re right. My puppy came home with a sit stay and recall like he’d be trained for 8 years. I can only assume it’s all the crossing to dogs known for throwing great obedience. Or maybe the I took advantage of some natural behaviors. I like the first one better.

 

so like, we shouldn't talk about how to pick a pup in my pick a pup thread?

you want me to quit, BH? don't discuss it. purebreds only?