[jang]

I am actually not interested in a RAD diet--more so in a RAW diet--i knew you knew that but it bugged me!
Jan

 

[Holmeshx2]

LOL yeah I figured as much. It really varies I feed once a day because Jinx only gets 20 ounces a day and if I give her just a tiny meal she'll look at me like I'm nuts and "thanks for the snack now feed me" She needs to lose a few pounds at the moment also so her portion will be getting back even more however for dinner tonight this is what she will be getting.

About 8 ounces turkey neck (Im not a big fan of necks but these are SUPER meaty necks like well over a pound a piece)
About 2 ounces chicken liver
About 6 ounces beef roast
about 4 ounces fresh/frozen/thawed beef tripe

I really try to give about 4-5 ounces of tripe with each feeding sometimes only 2 or 3 depending on if I have a precut size of muscle meat that I wont vary.

She has one more day (after today) of the beef roast and the chicken liver so then we will be using the turkey neck, beef kidney, lamb heart, and tripe
After this bag of turkey necks is gone I'll switch over to Chicken leg quarters for my RMB depending how long they have been on the kidney I'll switch over to lamb liver then since I'm using chicken for my RMB I'll do turkey hearts for my MM and of course my beef tripe. When I switch back to turkey for my RMB I will switch form the turkey hearts to beef heart or some pork cut.

 

[mycobraracr]

I have only been feeding raw for a little over a week so take this with a grain of salt.

Monday: Chicken quarter, boneless chicken breast, chicken gizzards,
salmon oil, multi vitamin
Tuesday: Chicken quarter, ground beef, liver, salmon oil, multi
vitamin
Wednesday: Whole rabbit, ground beef, kidney, raw egg, multi
vitamin
Thursday: Pork spare ribs, boneless chicken breast,liver, salmmon oil,
multi vitamin
And so on. I have fish but have not given it to her yet. For amounts, I use the formula on rawdogranch.com. Percentage of activity by projected adult weight. I hope this helped a little.

 

[jang]

Man you guys really work hard at this --time consuming, too, I would guess...And this is all uncooked meat?? excuse my ignorance, I do know what raw means but ya'll gotta have some strong stomachs to do this..I applaud your love for your dogs and the amount of money this must cost?! I bought a beef heart a couple of weeks ago and made treats for the dogs, and I gotta say there were some things I was cutting through that caused my eyes to water a tad.. God bless you..You are good moms. Thanks for the info, though I had no idea..
Jan

 

[Holmeshx2]

oh sorry I forgot to add supplements (they are a constant so I didnt think about them)

I give 1500 mg of ester C (vitamin C)
around 2,000 mg of salmon oil (just the capsules from the regular store for humans)
every other day I give 1 vitamin E capsule
Then I give Nupro as a multi-vitamin for her weight she is supposed to get about 3/4 of a scoop (its powdered) every day for a maintenance dose however I give 1 full scoop and I use the nupro silver which also has glucosamine complex in it.

 

[Holmeshx2]

yes its all raw and you get used to it. Part of feeding raw is finding good sources so you don't pay a fortune and a spare freezer is basically a MUST so you can buy in bulk and stock up on savings. It really doesn't take that much time a little more then feeding kibble but I spend less then 5 minutes a day doing everything for it and feeding her.

Tripe STINKS! However, I got super used to it. Some things are a little creepy about the diet (lamb testicles being one that grossed me out) or when I was breaking turkey necks down the inside trachea tube flopped out and on my arm which definitely creeped me out because it was like a long slimy noodle/straw then my dog grabbed the end of it and slurped it off me like a noodle which just sent me over the edge on being grossed out. But, you get over it all because you know how much healthier it is for the dogs and to see how much she loves it I wouldn't change it for the world.

 

[mycobraracr]

To add to Holmeshx2, It doesn't take too much time. I have been going to ethnic grocery stores and buy two weeks of food at a time. I am finding I am spending about $20 a month more than a premium dog food. So I just cutt out my morning Starbucks to make up the difference Prep time only takes me an hour or two the day I buy it. Then I fridge or freeze as needed. that way during the week when I am busy I just take out and feed just like kibble. Since feeding raw I have never seen my puppy look better or have more consistant energy. She is also finally putting on weight and has never been so excited to eat before.

 

[Holmeshx2]

I buy in bulk so I'll go buy 40 lb boxes of stuff leave them in the tub thawing once they are thawed enough for me to break apart I throw it all into gallon size freezer bags then throw it all in the big chest freezer and will take out a bag of each thing to thaw in the fridge overnight. I have my RMB in one bag MM in another tripe in another etc.. so I take it one bag of bones one bag of MM and a roll of tripe each bag is about 5 days worth so I open the bag of necks toss a 8 oz chunk in the bowl open beef roast bag toss a chunk in open liver bag toss a chunk in open tripe and grab a chunk to round off the rest of the 20 oz and bam I'm done close up all the bags throw in fridge til tomorrow take out and repeat. I'm sure I could take some time off by putting each full meal into a bag and freeze full meals but I prefer my way its just simpler for me.

 

[onyx'girl]

Article explaining the balance of calcium and phosphorus:
Balancing The Calcium/Phosphorous Ratio In A Raw Diet For Dogs

 

[Gmthrust]

Holmeshx2, in post #22, you wrote "... not a big fan of necks ..."

I'm still in the learning process and want to thank you....(and everyone!) for writing about feeding raw. All my girls are now almost exclusively raw ....(during some of the training exercises is the exception). It's okay if you don't want to say, but hoping you will so that I can learn.....how come you're not a big fan of necks....and is it just concerning turkey necks or ....or I don't know what....lol.....thanks in advance for writing about raw feeding!

 

[Sunflowers]

This is fantastic info. Can't wait to start! Although I may draw the line at testicles...

 

[WhiteWolfBeauty]

Can someone on a budget do this?

 

[kbella999]

Yes, but you really need to buy in bulk to get the savings. You will also save in other ways such as less vet bills.

Can someone on a budget do this?

 

[zookeeper]

i hope this is the right spot to ask this
i'd like some opinions on raw feeding for young puppies, did anyone do raw and kibble? our maltese is on raw and will eat BB wilderness small breed, took a year to find a food she'd eat, which is how i ended up doing the raw, she was hooked on people food and treats when we got her , she was already a year. Our new furbaby will be the first from puppy Ive tried raw with.

I read the link from somewhere on this site about goat milk and ground turkey for the first week.

I'd love to hear what you all did with just weaned puppy.

Picking up our puppy this weekend

Got kennel, toys and baby gates etc ready. Thought I should get the food prepared too

 

[onyx'girl]

If your pup is 8 weeks, s/he should be able to handle chicken necks and ground meat just fine. Stick with chicken for the first week and slowly add in other proteins. Only a little bit of organ meat. I would order some green tripe too, so many benefits in it. A just weaned pup is usually 4-5 weeks.
I gave my pup(who was weaned onto raw) chicken legs or thighs at 8 weeks, but he inhaled the first few meals so I decided to go with necks and ground mix.
Make sure you are feeding at least 3 meals a day and an 8 week old pup should be getting close to 1.5# per day. At 12 weeks my pup ate 2# daily 3 meals. I dropped the mid-day meal at 16 weeks but gave a midnight snack for another few months so he wouldn't barf bile early in the morning.
Exciting time for you!!! Get some sleep before the weekend zookeeper, you'll be wishing you could have more of the zzzzz's by Monday! Congrats on your new addition

 

[zookeeper]

thank you so much for your input! we are crazy excited

 

[GiacomoStellino]

I just got my gsd a couple months ago and a friend of mine turned me onto raw food for him. I noticed the difference in his coat in a couple weeks and he smells MUCH less. I still feed him half kibble half raw but im not sure if thats ok. I read that the Blue Buffalo i feed him has some vitamins, minerals and anti oxidants im positive cannot be found in raw meat which is why i decided to continue to feed him it along with the raw meat.

 

[MiaKodaMomma]

We became very interested in the RAW diets prior to Miakoda getting a serious baterial infection but when we called the vet and asked questions about raw foods, even fruits and veggies, the vet stated sternly, "I'd advice against giving any animal raw foods." We asked why and the vet states, "There's way to many bacteria and viruses that result from raw foods." Now as an over aware eater myself, don't like additives and preservatives, well I just wanted the best for Miakoda. So as I appreciate this I'm totally confused but understand the sponsored by a kibble producer statements, I think the same way.
So a neighbor said cooked chicken is the best but I think the bones are dangerous and would never give them, another says just fruit and veggies no nuts of any kind and so on. Then the last person I spoke to said, I think a raw diet like beef, chicken and fish would make a dog go wild and crazy and basically completely nuts. I know chocolate, grapes, onions, garlic, raisins and avocados can be or are poisonous to dogs but what about nice fruit salad with some veggies on the side or frozen fruit ice-cubes? Is there a book on this that would come highly recommended? I asked the vet for a list of foods and plants which were known to be poisonous to dogs and she stated they didn't have a list like that compiled, I think that's important. Is there a book or thread with a reliable list?

I would like to give Miakoda trail mix when we go for our trail walks.
I would like to know if raw fish is alright or if that in fact is poisonous.
Please help.

 

[mynameisblc]

We became very interested in the RAW diets prior to Miakoda getting a serious baterial infection but when we called the vet and asked questions about raw foods, even fruits and veggies, the vet stated sternly, "I'd advice against giving any animal raw foods." We asked why and the vet states, "There's way to many bacteria and viruses that result from raw foods." Now as an over aware eater myself, don't like additives and preservatives, well I just wanted the best for Miakoda. So as I appreciate this I'm totally confused but understand the sponsored by a kibble producer statements, I think the same way.
So a neighbor said cooked chicken is the best but I think the bones are dangerous and would never give them, another says just fruit and veggies no nuts of any kind and so on. Then the last person I spoke to said, I think a raw diet like beef, chicken and fish would make a dog go wild and crazy and basically completely nuts. I know chocolate, grapes, onions, garlic, raisins and avocados can be or are poisonous to dogs but what about nice fruit salad with some veggies on the side or frozen fruit ice-cubes? Is there a book on this that would come highly recommended? I asked the vet for a list of foods and plants which were known to be poisonous to dogs and she stated they didn't have a list like that compiled, I think that's important. Is there a book or thread with a reliable list?

I would like to give Miakoda trail mix when we go for our trail walks.
I would like to know if raw fish is alright or if that in fact is poisonous.
Please help.

Uhh... Cooking the bones will change the molecular structure of the bone and that is what dogs choke on. But a raw meat and a non-cooked bone is perfectly fine for dogs and I don't think there has ever been an incident of a dog choking on a non-cooked bone. Also dogs aren't vegetarians so they should eat meat and not a full veggie meal. Adding SOME veggies are fine though. This information is just my 8 months of research and still learning .

 

[MiaKodaMomma]

Uhh... Cooking the bones will change the molecular structure of the bone and that is what dogs choke on. But a raw meat and a non-cooked bone is perfectly fine for dogs and I don't think there has ever been an incident of a dog choking on a non-cooked bone. Also dogs aren't vegetarians so they should eat meat and not a full veggie meal. Adding SOME veggies are fine though. This information is just my 8 months of research and still learning .

I agree and as stated I would never give cooked bones to an animal. Is there a book on RAW diets and such or did you learn here on how to feed? I have a ton of questions but don't want to repost questions others have already asked. I prefer my dog to have the RAW diet and not the store bought kibble diet.

Recently we had a scare and Koda somehow got a bacterial infection of the stomach and the vet isn't sure how, but the vet bill states it was serious. Koda is well now but I fear her getting ill again. I could barely control my emotions when she went without eating or drinking for a few hours, so I don't want her nor us to go through that again. Thanks for responding. A Vegan dog :laugh: