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Prostate issues and early neutering

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It is completely your choice what to do with your dog, you should not sell your dog if you feel attached. There's an ethics issue with selling a dog whose hips are not healthy, too, I don't know why the trainer would suggest it.

Despite being supportive of rescuing dogs as appose to buying, I am NOT supportive of S/N to 'prevent breeding'. You prevent breeding by keeping females in season contained. I had my dog neutered because he had a prostate issue due to not being able to breed, but smelling females in season, and I was not willing to 'release' him (I was 15, didn't seem like an option to me.)

It sounds like there are ways around that law, as people above stated, but it's an issue you will face with every dog you get. I would move, personally.
 
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I had my dog neutered because he had a prostate issue due to not being able to breed, but smelling females in season, and I was not willing to 'release' him (I was 15, didn't seem like an option to me.)
Prostate issues are not caused by smelling females in heat and not being able to breed.

It's thought to be a normal condition of male aging across numerous species. Most likely due to the changes in sex hormones.

It is incredibly common.
 
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I once had a Russian Wolfhound who was picked up by the pound and they would not give him back unless I had him neutered. This was a dog so soft and shy he needed every bit of testosterone he could possibly make. So I got an idea and went to my vet who agreed to give Ivan Putski a vasectomy. He sighed the paper that the dog had been 'sterilized'.

Hers what 'lawmakers' politicians and elected officials do- they sit up there and pass laws whittling away at out freedom every day.
 
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That sounds like an infection. Prostatitis. It is most often caused by bacteria that enters the prostate gland via the urethra. It can also by viral or fungal in nature though.

Microorganisms being the cause. Not hormonal in nature. Not from a lack of release.
 
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From my understanding it's the dog version of 'blue balls'. Rare in dog's under 4 so there was little information I could gather on cause and effect on my 11 month old pup, and that was over 5 years ago, might be more info now.
 
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According to Dr Becker, who is a raw feeding non S/N nazi vet, it's rare to see breeding dogs with this specific issue.

Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia: Almost All Male Dogs Have This

TBH I have spoken to quite a few breeders who will manually ejaculate their males every 6 months if they are not to be bred that year. A GSD breeder/ service dog trainer locally does this and says it keeps them healthy and lessens competitive behavior between males. I'm not a breeder though.
 
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I have to say that I find your comparison of Dr. Becker to a fascist political party that was responsible for the cruel deaths of millions of people to be incredibly offensive and hurtful. Especially to those who are holocaust survivors or otherwise personally impacted by those events. :( As it is rather hurtful to Dr. Becker herself who has devoted her life to caring for animals.

Regardless of your insensitive choice in terminology, I suggest reading the article a little more closely. No where is it suggested that breeding prevents BPH. Just that she does not condone the use of drugs to prevent prostatitis in breeding dogs that develop BPH. The mention of "rare" in regards to deveoping BPH could be because breeding dogs on average are of a younger age/in better health than non breeding dogs/etc.

I cannot find any verifiable information that ejaculation prevents prostate problems in dogs. I've been looking. Just second hand stuff. No studies. No direct quotes from a well respected vet specializing in reproductive medicine. Please, if you, or anyone, can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.

It's just not the way a dog's body works. In the wild they are seasonal breeders. Most won't ever breed even during the season. Evolution has given them a way to "refresh" their system without the need of ejaculation in the context of mating.

There is some merit in collecting a breeding dog when he is not being used to maintain sperm health and motility though.

I'm not going to touch on the behavioral aspect of it... IME with multiple intact animals if someone feels the need to do crazy stuff to minimize competitive behaviors in males - they probably shouldn't have intact males LOL
 
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I'm confused why there is so much rudeness aimed at members with actual knowledge and science backgrounds who are generously offering their time to post facts on this forum. Perhaps some people should have a slice pf humble pie and realize they could actually gain real knowledge from this forum if they would just accept that they are not an expert in all the things.
 
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I have to say that I find your comparison of Dr. Becker to a fascist political party that was responsible for the cruel deaths of millions of people to be incredibly offensive and hurtful. Especially to those who are holocaust survivors or otherwise personally impacted by those events. As it is rather hurtful to Dr. Becker herself who has devoted her life to caring for animals.
And I agree with this thought about using the term "Nazi" to categorize anyone that has strong convictions. Usually when someone in a discussion starts throwing the term Nazi around out of context, it means that they have stopped being open to learning and new ideas a long time ago, and have turned to judging other very unfairly.

Too bad, I was finding the discussion very interesting, but closing this thread to avoid further rudeness and inappropriate categorization.
 
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