You are not likely to find any truly good breeders producing off-standard colors or breeding specifically for color within standard. (I'll leave the white shepherd discussion out of this post.)

The panda pattern is a mutation, and I would be suspicious of a breeder who was consistently producing panda puppies: What are they overlooking in terms of health and temperament in order to get the panda markings?

 

^ That, 100%. Ask yourself what is more important to you- having that solid temperament and health you love in your current GSD, or the look of a unique mutation. The odds of getting both in one package are really stacked against you.

 

A panda puppy will be very expensive and that right there is a red flag for bad, greedy breeders who only care about money

Some colors are a DQ for AKC so I think finding a reputable breeder only breeding for pandas would be nigh impossible

I know when I was looking I would've also loved a panda. Found out how much they were and stopped looking there and decided to get a red and black GSD. Well, Zoe was within our budget, and her mom was a red and black with a sable dad. Zoe is a wonderful patterned sable and has red coloring on her head... so I kind of got what I wanted, haha

I mean, I'd rather have a slightly ugly car that is reliable rather than a bitchin' looking car that drives like crap and is utterly useless

A long living, healthy dog will give you much more happiness than something that looks amazing, but riddled with health issues (I'm not saying they are, I'm just making an analogy)

 

I specifically know quite a few Panda Shepherd breeders who breed dogs out of either health tested and titled parents or just health tested parents at the least. Their puppies are usually priced the same as their traditional colours and I would consider them very reputable.

I believe coloured breeders get a bad rep because people often associate them with greed, byb, or producing mediocre dogs but times are changing and colour is just that. Colour.

It neither affects the workibility, temperment or drive of the dog and doesn't make the breeder a bad one.

Personally I'm not sure how people are more readily accepting of oversized dogs (which does affect workibility) over off-standard colour, but thats just me.

**Also wanted to add that the Panda mutation is dominant meaning these breeders aren't breeding only Panda's. They can breed any dog with the mutation to any dog without it and produce panda puppies. That means theres always the possibility of actually having some great lines in your dog.

 

There are always people on here looking for panda's/blues/livers and whatever. If you know of reputable breeders of such dogs please post.
But I have to be honest, I just pulled up about 10 different panda breeders that ranged from sketchy at best to not much better then mills. One place breeding every color of the rainbow and claiming to be superb breeders, no mention of health testing, no pedigrees linked or even registered names and a whole lot of the old fashioned even tempered great with my kids raised in my kitchen and of course straight backed. Even a pay here button. Oh and the "no good dog is a bad color" quote.

 

If I met a panda GSD that worked sheep properly or functioned competitively in a breed-appropriate working venue, I would think highly of the dog and follow its progeny with interest.

Somehow that just doesn't happen.

 

You're right, its not common at all which I think is sad, but I do know people who are aspiring towards those goals and others who have sadly tried and were not welcomed (we're talking completely turned away by clubs and trainers) and thus got discouraged and gave up.

One has to remember that when looking at dogs who are used in areas such as IPO, most people look for the high drive working line. That means the usual people who are looking into the offstandards are pet owners, people who will never compete or only to small trials. So that means even if the dog DOES have what it takes, they'll never get a chance to prove it and thats why its not common to see any offstandard dogs in those venues.

Luckily as I said above, times are changing and alot of people who work with off standard colours are switching gears to breed higher drive dogs that they can actually title, as up until recently people were breeding more mellow "family friendly" dogs. And seeing breeders who are determined to make a big splash and become more active to show their dogs aren't any different.

 

Colour doesn't affect the workibily of the breed at all. Before the standard was set there were many different colours. If blues had been the standard colour then black and tans would be the ones being considered as faults. If you think of it in that way then you realize how much colour is based on preference and not actual functionality.

Colour IS just colour, its someones preference turned into standard that has no barings on the quality of the dog. The only reason theres so much stigma against these offstandard colours is because people put them on this pedestal and treat them differently then they do dogs of a standard colour.

This dog is liver so it must be defective.
This dog has white spotting so its obviously poorly bred.

While that may be the case in some dogs and some lines, colour isn't the culprit of a poorly bred dog, poor breeders are

I've seen livers with extremely rich colouring. So rich you wouldve thought they were black. I've also seen pandas come in rich black and red. And whites throw rich tans. Long ago it was assumed whites diluted the colour of the breed. That was debunked and we now know better.

Panda isn't even a DQ OR a fault if we're going into logistics. Go a read the AKC standard yourself and you'll see that no where does it fault a dog for having large amounts of white (SV is actually different)

So that begs the question "why aren't they shown?"
Because the misinformation going around that they are a DQ or a fault. People arent aware that they can be shown. And while a Panda wouldn't necessarily place due to preference of the judge they also wouldn't automatically be faulted like livers or blues nor would the automatically be DQ'd like whites. It would be strictly up the the individual judge.

This whole idea that certain colours are "bad" or "subpar" just because of their colour is interesting to me when apparently its okay to have 110 standard colours and long coated variation, both at which do affect the dogs original purpose.

 

"While that may be the case in some dogs and some lines, colour isn't the culprit of a poorly bred dog, poor breeders are"

Well, I have to somewhat disagree with this...color and poorly bred dogs do go hand in hand, because all the most reputable breeders will conform to the breed standards which will not allow for those colors.

I also have to say if someone isn't showing their dog because of "misinformation about something being a fault or a DQ"...well...read the rulebook. Write to the registry. It isn't rocket science to find out what the rules are and what can be shown where and as what, and if you can't figure that out maybe you shouldn't breed dogs?

I wish this breed would have only focused on workability, temperament, things that really matter. Kicking the whites out was petty and pointless, I don't know as much about what causes livers and blues or pandas so I won't say more about that. But every argument I have heard for kicking out the whites was not based on anything legit. They can be seen at night? Well, the cops always call that they are sending the dog anyway so what's the issue with element of surprise? You can't see them at night when there is snow on the ground and you sure can see a black one, so....half the year it goes one way and half the year the other....

 

My strong belief is that any dog who is healthy, performing at something and titling, with a good temperament judged not only by the people who live with and love that dog but also unbiased and educated third parties in some fashion...any dog meeting above criteria should not be "disqualified" or thought to be lesser because of its color.

The whites are rather a separate thing at this point and I don't think they should be included with the rest of the color issue. As I have said before they didn't exactly choose to breed only for white for fun, they were kicked out of the breed so they don't have much choice.

Breeders who breed for exotic colors to sell to pet people are not reputable breeders.

 

I think the thing to remember here is that its not the colour that makes the dog bad, but the breeder themselves.

As I mentioned above, one of the biggest reasons offstandard coloured breeders cater to pet people is because I think most are very clearly aware that people who show or compete in working venues, aren't interested in those offstandards. While I don't believe diluting a dogs temperment down to suit a family is right, I will admit to understanding why if they know those are going to be the only people who are interested (I guess similar to the breeders who breed those 130lbs docile monsters).
If it were the case that people who worked their dogs didn't care about the colours and only the workibility, drive, and temperment and lets say, found a nice liver that fit those standards then we may have found that more breeders worked towards that instead of producing pet quality dogs.

I also think that if offstandard colours wouldn't have been such a "hot topic" most irreptuable breeders wouldn't have any leverage at which to sell their dogs at. Its kind of like telling a child they can't have a certain candy and forbidding it and then the child buying that candy while they're alone just because it was forbidden. It becomes so much more "valuable" when in reality its not.

I'm super into dog coat colour genetics, so id be lying if I said I wouldn't be one to want to breed every colour just out of sheer curiosity of discovering the genetics behind it all.

 

For the people saying that color is just color...

Have you researched what happens when two blue merle Australian shepherds are bred together? Deaf, blind, dead pups. Color is not just a color all the time. A dog with a mutation like panda could have hidden health issues or genes that could be passed on to CAUSE health issues. Color mutations like that are usually not wise to breed. It is still a mutation, and no, color is not always just color. It has hidden consequences.

 

When I say color is just color. I mean that in our breed, most colors (with the exception of blue) don't have any negative problems associated with them and thus ARE just color. If a color was affecting the dogs health then of course that shouldn't be bred, but most colors that occur naturally in the GSD breed have no health concerns with the exception of Blue which can cause CDA. Personally I'm not a fan of blues just for that reason, but it is possible to breed blues without worry of that problem.

In terms of Panda shepherds, the only concern with the color is when breeding 2 Pandas together (Its a dominant gene) which causes reabsorption of any embryo that gets double of the gene. That means no puppies are born with health problems, but you would get a smaller litter.

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand it all Pandas trace back to a single dog. One who in spite of having fair hips and elbows, and only ever earning a CD title was bred repeatedly to provide a foundation for the panda shepherds. And the breeder continues to trade on this one, assuredly pleasant and sweet looking, unremarkable bitch.
I am not one to focus on titles, for the simply reason that a talented handler can elevate an otherwise mediocre dog to champion status. But I do believe that a working dog ought to have working ability and before being bred should prove that working ability. To my mind preferably by working, failing that by doing something that proves ability. Obedience is wonderful but should not be used to judge a dogs breed worthiness as a working dog.
So we now have yet another sub section of the breed that has no work ability.

 

You are correct and I 100% agree with you, the dog was definitely bred simply due to her color and personally I would have been the type of be out there and proving that just because she was different didn't mean she couldn't work. she actually did come from working lines and she was bred to other dogs that had proven parents but were not proven themselves so a lot of the early progeny did have enough drive to become nice titled dogs but were never used to their full potential and thus the lines continued to become diluted into basic pet lines, though I would consider them higher drive then other pet lines, atleast enough for someone interested in sport or for a breeder to breed more drive back into them.

I do know someone who has a progeny from her who said that dog is high drive and what she prefers (I believe she does PPD), sadly this person isn't into titling.
**Edited to say, this specific person actually acquired the dog because she liked his drive and temperament

It is possible (I can't say for sure though) that she was titled conformation wise in another organization as I know the breeder does title some of her other dogs now in a certain club. But as far as I'm aware, there were no working titles.

 

How many people are actually breeding pandas? I've seen one lady.

News on the Panda Shepherd | Furrari Kennels
https://pandagsd.weebly.com
http://gsdpandakennels.wixsite.com/phenomshepherds/page2
https://www.facebook.com/k9pines

These 4 come up right away.

 

News on the Panda Shepherd | Furrari Kennels
https://pandagsd.weebly.com
http://gsdpandakennels.wixsite.com/phenomshepherds/page2
https://www.facebook.com/k9pines

These 4 come up right away.

They all look sketchy to me.

 

Slowly backs away from thread about purchasing a dog breed created for serious work (herding, protection, police & military) based on a pretty (non-standard) coat pattern............

 

The pandas have been discussed ad nauseum on the PDB. Apparently the panda mutation isn't all that rare. A number of different posters said they knew of other breeders who had produced a panda pup. There was even a breeder from Australia who provided pictures of such a pup. He/she did what any reputable breeder would do: they sold it to a pet home, with the stipulation that the dog be neutered.

Same thing was done when another breeder unexpectedly had blue pups crop up in a working line litter.

It's what responsible breeders do.

Of course, the breeders that breed only for colour were all over these dogs, wanting to buy them for insane amounts of money, and turn them into puppy factories... :frown2:

 

There are actually a few different genes that are responsible for white spotting. Panda is KIT the other is Pibauld and often mistaken for Panda, those pop up more frequently, there is another gene that popped up recently that is unidentified (but not Panda as it was tested) and another in a foreign country from a supposed reputable breeder that is also un identified but wasn't tested.

Personally If I was a breeder and found a nice off standard dog, I also would inquire about purchasing it for breeding purposes. Not strictly because of its color but because when you fancy a color (any at all, blue, black, white, etc) You're actively looking for dogs that not only fit that preference of yours, but also come from actual good lines and can improve your own lines, since its really not common that you do find a off standard actually being sold from lines that are nice AND proven so most do jump at the opportunity.

 

But see, if you are a “hobby breeder” with dogs that are unproven, what are you really adding to the breed? It doesn’t matter what colors you produce at that point. I wouldn’t call someone that doesn’t prove their breeding dogs a hobby breeder. I know good hobby breeders, ones that breed because they love our breed, they love the work, and they know their dogs. Ones that health test and only breed when they have something worth breeding. Those people prove why their dogs should be bred first. THEN they breed. If you breed first and then think about getting into some sort of work/sport in which your dogs can be proven, you are putting the cart before the horse. And I’m sorry, off colors or standard, I just cannot see those people as good breeders.

 

I agree with that to an extent, my first thoughts are always "Why WOULDN'T you want to prove your dogs", and to answer simply, because they just don't feel the need to. Sad but true.

Interestingly enough though, some of these breeders are ones who were actively involved in the breed at one point (like when they were younger) and slowly faded out later in life. I even knew one with a high drive IPO female and other high drive working dogs who completely switched over to producing pet, why? I have nooo clue.

But I don't think titles make a breeder great or not, and while I personally never would breed a dog without titling to prove them, I have seen some really nice dogs out of breeders who have been breeding for a while, knew what they want, and didn't title, that could've easily been titled but never were because the owners didn't care to.

I wish I had the video of this dog I was introduced to when first learning about color genetics, he was a liver male without a real significant pedigree (some stuff pretty far back but nothing recent) and the owners were actually trying to LOWER his drive because he was too much for them (They said the breeder even told them the dog would be high drive based on parents, but they assumed they could handle it). The trainers they went to tried to guide them and show them what he was capable of but they weren't interested. According to the owner, the other littermates were also more driven, I often wondered if any of the others attempted any showing.
But anyway, I guess in that case the breeder just had an Idea of what they liked and what worked. Though I don't know if maybe they were a trainer or had someone evaluate their dogs.

 

This is my first time wading into a Panda topic, so I did not know it was a controversy. Until I read this thread, I thought no one who is in favor of breeding the best dogs the breed can offer would even consider intentionally breeding for it. I don’t understand the purpose of trying to breed a mutation or of ruining a whole generation of puppies from good lines by introducing a dominant, fault gene. This reminds me of other controversies where fans of different breeds try to make them seem like something other than what they are. In this case, we are being asked to accept Pandas as just as breedworthy as traditional colorings. I read the pro arguments, but I don’t get it. How do we even know it won’t mutate again and introduce health risks?

 

It was a mutation that happened in the sperm, pretty much a 1 in a million phenotypical mutation (one that changes the look of the dog) and the probability of it mutating again is low, we have a higher probability of other white spotting mutations to take place then we do of this one ever mutating again.

That being said, the whole though process of a color "ruining" a whole generation is interesting to me. We're talking about taking a dog with white markings and breeding it to a dog with no white markings and then getting a litter of puppies where half have white and half don't. That means literally half of the litter would be judged based on color while the other half would be accepted.

The puppies could have identical drives, identical temperaments, identical structures (lets pretend they're all "to standard") and yet the dogs with white markings would be considered "poorly bred" just by first glance.

Now its common knowledge that for the most part breeders who breed off standard colors aren't considered reputable or respectable and it would be ignorant to believe that colored dogs were in anyway superior to standards, cause lets be real nice colored dogs are not common. Thats what happens when lines become diluted.

But that doesn't mean that colors such as liver, blue, Isabella, panda, piebald and more can't be bred with integrity, responsibility and adhere to the original values of the breed. It doesn't mean that just because a breeder may fancy colors other then those that are traditional, that they have no regards for the breed. It simply means that they appreciate the breed not for the color, but the core traits of it.

What IF the first Panda Shepherd would've been an exquisite bitch? What if she would have been titled all the way to ScH3 and her progeny all titled as well?

The point I'm trying to make here is that color has no bearings on the integrity of the dog or the breeder, I'm not here to try and convince anyone that a Panda colored dog is in anyway superior or that they should be accepting of any off standard color, not here to say that all breeders of pandas are some how "reputable" or "responsible".

All I'm trying to make clear is that breeding a certain color doesn't make someone a poor to non reputable breeder. A poor breeder is just that, with or without the colors. Theres just been stigma around it all for far to long.

As someone who studies color genetics, its just all a mystery to me why one color would be accepted while the other is not other then by human preference.

 

LuvShepherds, panda x panda is lethal (embryos are re-absorbed). That tells me all I need to know about breeding these dogs. :frown2:

 

When I googled panda shepherd, the breeders that came up were mostly also breeding other off-colours. So, yeah, definitely NOT reputable breeders!

 

@Curing You don’t know that there aren’t any Pandas that are otherwise high quality, because if they were owned by reputable breeders, they were not bred. If they had been, it would be more common and there would be examples, as posted above.

I don’t see anything wrong with wanting one or liking them, but buying a German Shepherd is not the same thing as decorating a house. When evaluating dogs and lineage, we don’t look for “nice colors” we look at overall packages, and whether we like it or not, that includes color. That is why I set out to get a red and black dog and ended up with a solid black short haired puppy. I wanted nice colors, but I wanted a certain type more and I found that in a working line dog. In the end, color was less important. I also discovered that black is the most unusual color to anyone who doesn’t read this forum or participate in working line groups or clubs. After I got him, I realized I love solid black coats. His is shiny and gorgeous. I recently took mine to the pet store to buy food and was surrounded by young girls who thought he was the most beautiful dog they have ever seen. There aren’t a lot of WL GSDs here. I have seen maybe 2 solid Black that were not ASLs. There are a lot of sables, but the average non GSD owner doesn’t even realize they are the same line as mine.

 

From K9 pines that advertises blue, liver, fawn, brindle and Isabella coloring. Blue eyes are a definite fault and could not be shown.

Panda's can have one blue eye, partial China eyes, 2 blue eyes or traditional colored eyes that accompany the actual coat color of the GSD.

 

Whiteshepherds, you do have a point. However, I wonder how many of the breeders just assumed there'd been a fence-jumper, and quietly got rid of the pup. Aside from the Australian pup, there wasn't much information available about other pandas, it was more just 'oh, I know someone back 20 years ago that had this happen...'

The prevailing attitude was 'shoot, shovel and shut up', and you are right, that happens all too frequently with genetic problems/anomalies in purebred dogs. No one wants to confess that THEIR dogs produced something that didn't conform to the standard.

But nothing will convince me these dogs should have been bred, except possibly as a test litter to try to figure out what had happened.

 

Oh, the irony, from Phenom Shepherds website:

"There are people that for some unexplained reason feel the need to try to dupe the public by offering puppies that are not of the standard set for the Panda Shepherd. This only results in inferior and homeless animals."

http://gsdpandakennels.wixsite.com/phenomshepherds/panda-shepherds

So are Panda Shepherd breeders breeding to the GSD standard or to that of the Panda Shepherd, whatever that may be?

 

I honestly don't agree with her at all. I whole heartedly believe that if you're choosing to breed an off standard color (as I said, I fee color is a bit different then lets say size or coat type) then you need to be holding to the standard in every other way possible.

 

Okay so I'm having to run from the comfort of my couch and laptop currently but have a list of Breeders who I know have either have some titles on their Pandas (Sport titles only, hope thats okay), Proven their dogs in other ways (Tactical training and I found 1 herding dog), or at the very least health tested (for those people who are looking but don't know where to start). Will post them when I return!

Would be happy to add general off standard breeders who health test and title to the list as well if anyone is interest.

 

@Curing you said "But that doesn't mean that colors such as liver, blue, Isabella, panda, piebald and more can't be bred with integrity, responsibility and adhere to the original values of the breed. It doesn't mean that just because a breeder may fancy colors other then those that are traditional, that they have no regards for the breed. It simply means that they appreciate the breed not for the color, but the core traits of it.

What IF the first Panda Shepherd would've been an exquisite bitch? What if she would have been titled all the way to ScH3 and her progeny all titled as well?

The point I'm trying to make here is that color has no bearings on the integrity of the dog or the breeder, I'm not here to try and convince anyone that a Panda colored dog is in anyway superior or that they should be accepting of any off standard color, not here to say that all breeders of pandas are some how "reputable" or "responsible".

I don't even know what Isabella is...have to go google that. But saying that livers blues pandas can be bred with integrity hmm...I am not sure. Not when you START with color.

Here's my thing. Someone said if a reputable breeder produced a liver it would do the responsible thing and place it in a pet home and make sure it was sterilized. THIS is what I do not agree with. If a respsonsible breeder produced an off color it ought to be evaluated just like any other dog. say it is a liver. If it seems above average, work it, title it and see. Maybe it is exceptional. If it is an exceptional dog it ought to be bred. If the mate of the dog is chosen with the same care and chosen to be the best compliment to the original, the chance that it is also a liver is slim to none.

If that same dog is evaluated and it is average or below average sure, no reason to breed it.

My problem is considering color first. I think color should be considered last. UNLESS that color is legitimately associated with some health condition. To my knowledge livers and blues and whites have no association with anything.

I don't think a dog should be selected as breeding stock based on color first OR eliminated as breeding stock based on color first. If color is placed last where it belongs then it shouldn't be an issue. If I were on some mythical dog buying expedition trying to get breeding stock and I had a few dogs to choose from and they appeared equal in every other way then I might lean toward a color preference. But if the color preference comes first then I am already blinded to other things that matter so much more.

The next issue is how big is the gene pool. Breeding livers with integrity would require that you have enough livers that your gene pool is sufficiently big, which I don't think it is, and if you cross to other colors to widen the gene pool you're going to already want to choose to keep back the livers in your breeding program which means you chose color before other factors, which in my opinion is wrong and could only damage the breed and lead to subpar dogs

 

Here's my thing. Someone said if a reputable breeder produced a liver it would do the responsible thing and place it in a pet home and make sure it was sterilized. THIS is what I do not agree with. If a respsonsible breeder produced an off color it ought to be evaluated just like any other dog. say it is a liver. If it seems above average, work it, title it and see. Maybe it is exceptional. If it is an exceptional dog it ought to be bred. If the mate of the dog is chosen with the same care and chosen to be the best compliment to the original, the chance that it is also a liver is slim to none.

Liver and blue are disqualifying faults because the pigment is not black. Has nothing to do with the actually color, but because the nose should be black. It may have little to do with working ability and a good dog with liver or blue coloring could still make a good working dog. They just should not be bred. If we start ignoring the standard then where do we stop? Dog is missing a bunch of teeth, but, heck, they can still work so breed them? A dog has floppy ears, but, heck, they don't need prick ears to work? At what point are we no longer breeding GSD? Of course I also have an issue with breeding dogs that are pretty, but can't work and dogs that are mushy goldens with prick ears as I do with dogs that can work yet either don't resemble a GSD or have disqualifying faults.

 

We live in a supply + demand market, I don't think there is anything wrong breeding for a specific color and for profit as long as the breeding stocks are evaluated properly for health and temperament to be fit for breeding. OP maybe you want to try puppyfind.com or just google online and use facebook groups to find panda breeders? Just please make sure the parents have elbow and hip testing done and meet the parents in person and talk to previous puppy buyers to make sure the temperament of the pup is what you want to live with for the next 10 years or so. If you can't meet the parents in person, then I think it is safest to only buy from parents with titles. Good luck! And please post pics of your pando pup if you end up getting one

 

Cowboysgirl, the reason a reputable breeder would neuter a liver or blue is to keep it from becoming a puppy factory for liver and blue pups! There are many, many unscrupulous breeders out there who want these dogs in order to breed them JUST for their colour.

Also, ethical breeders breed to the breed standard, and these colours are NOT recognized, so why should these dogs be left intact? They can earn working titles just as well if neutered.

BTW, IIRC, Isabella is a colour that happens if the dog is homozygous for both the blue and liver genes.

 

Ok, I didn't think of them being fodder for unethical color breeders.

I know the colors aren't recognized, and I know responsible breeders won't consider them as breeding stock. I am really just stating my pipe dream of what could have happened instead of what did. know what I mean? in my dream world whites wouldn't have been kicked out either. Doesn't make it so

 

Don't spend too much time on it Curing. There is no one in the world breeding panda shepherds that are proven in anything except color. Tactical training, odds are some goofs in the woods with their guns pretending on Youtube. I don't care what their website says.

 

Wow, I was way off. Youtube? Clearly I should have said facebook. Sorry bout that.

 

Sorry everyone, I work in a job that is very time consuming and can take me at random times. Below I will list all of the kennels I either personally know the owners of (I will put a * next to those) or personally know work/show and health test their dogs (Have seen pictures, videos, or the titles). I will put the Pandas up first just because thats what this thread is about and then put the other kennels below. Will add a description to each.

Please be aware I am only adding kennels that I either personally know or that I know enough about to be confident enough to post. While there are others that I am aware of that do work, because I am either unsure if they health test or just unsure of their kennel name, they will not be added.
Kennels that I know of that have dogs that produce progeny that are tested and have good results, but don't have public info for health tests on their own stock and don't title will also not be added.




Panda breeders:

* https://www.malakkennels.com/home

Please forgive the outdated site, the owner said they were working on an updated on soon.
Malak kennels is a German Shepherd breeder in SC, they do mostly tactical work with their dogs and have proven narc and bomb detection dogs, they have done work in the country and oversee's. They also have a proven panda SD. Currently Malak kennels has 2 Panda's in training for Tactical work, these dogs are still young, so more to come.
Current Panda male is trained in herding.

Most of their current dogs have atleast CGC titles and are all health tested.


* About - Loyalville German Shepherds

Loyalville was actually posted a bit earlier, but that wasn't their actual site so wanted to make sure it was seen.
Loyalville's owner is a breeder and trainer, her dogs are both titled and health tested and she only occasionally produces Pandas. Currently a few of her Pandas have titles in AKC Fast Cat with one Ranking #1. She also has a program going in order to have her dogs trained and titled by others to get them out there.

https://www.facebook.com/RegalimageShepherds/

Regalimage was referred to me by another person, they both health test and work/show their dogs and title, they currently don't breed Pandas but because they have one and I assume have plans to breed her once she is titled and health tested, I have added them to the Panda part of the list.
Regalimage currently has 1 panda that is being trained in scentwork, hopefully more to come on this one.


Other Color Breeders (Including White):

*https://www.bellevuegsd.com

Bellevue is located in CA, they breed mostly silvers and whites but have recently acquired both blue and Isabella. Bellevue dogs are mostly imported with notable pedigree's and all are health tested. Bellevue's new Isabella addition is being put through training for IPO, hopefully more to follow.

https://www.facebook.com/silverayegsd/

Silver Raye Shepherds is located in PA, they specialize in mostly silvers and blues. Silver Raye both health tests and titles their dogs, mostly in conformation.

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Ballynabola is located in the UK, they don't produce litters often but are very active with their dogs. Ballynabola produces long coats livers, blues, whites and standards. Dogs are shown in a variety of events and results are posted on their site.

Welcome to Sugarloaf Shepherds - Championship German Shepherd Dogs of White Coat Color

Sugarloaf Shepherds is located in PA, these breeders specialize in white and standard ASL, dogs are health tested and titled.
The reasoning for including a white shepherd breeder is because they actually currently have a white masking panda that was to be shown and uses one in their breeding program. This dog is white so it would be impossible to tell they were genetically panda, but thought it was great to see the diversity anyway.

**Please note that I have come to know these kennels specifically through a club that supports off colored breeding with the goal to promote better breeding practices. As this club continues to develop there will hopefully be an online database that allows for potential buyers to easily access information on specific breeders as well as titles and health tests of their dogs. ANY breeder who does not at least health test their dogs with passing scores will not be added to this database. Once that is launched I will be sure to post it as a resource for those who are interested.

Hope is information has been helpful.

 

**Please note that I have come to know these kennels specifically through a club that supports off colored breeding with the goal to promote better breeding practices. As this club continues to develop there will hopefully be an online database that allows for potential buyers to easily access information on specific breeders as well as titles and health tests of their dogs. ANY breeder who does not at least health test their dogs with passing scores will not be added to this database. Once that is launched I will be sure to post it as a resource for those who are interested.

It’s not possible to support off color breeding with a goal of better breeding practices. One negates the other. Better breeding means not intentionally breeding away from the standard.