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He's a very different dog than Cion. He's got a much better handle on his emotions.
 
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He's a very different dog than Cion. He's got a much better handle on his emotions.
He is. A lot more clarity and a lot more control. With Cion, it’s like a flood of emotion in everything he does. It’s all out. With Kodak there’s the same intensity, but the control, the transitions, the off and on, it’s amazing. He can be easily take a correction and keep going like it’s nothing but it doesn’t take a hard correction either. He’s got more independence and yet he’s incredibly compliant and biddable. There’s things I can do with him in training that would never work with Cion. As he matures into the aggression more, I think he’ll be phenomenal. You can see the difference between October with Tom and now. He’s had maybe 10 sessions of protection in total. I’ll try to get more videos of him working with helpers.
 
He is. A lot more clarity and a lot more control. With Cion, it’s like a flood of emotion in everything he does. It’s all out. With Kodak there’s the same intensity, but the control, the transitions, the off and on, it’s amazing. He can be easily take a correction and keep going like it’s nothing but it doesn’t take a hard correction either. He’s got more independence and yet he’s incredibly compliant and biddable. There’s things I can do with him in training that would never work with Cion. As he matures into the aggression more, I think he’ll be phenomenal. You can see the difference between October with Tom and now. He’s had maybe 10 sessions of protection in total. I’ll try to get more videos of him working with helpers.
I can see him thinking. I like that. He's a forward dog. I like that too.

It's funny that the real powerhouse dogs are usually easy to live with. I think it takes a lot to breed that kind of animal.
 
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He looks good, let’s see if I get this right.. he looks clear, happy to oblige turn on and off when asked? Either way nice vid!
At the start he's just running around like maniac. Once he comes over, I put him in a down to get the obedience going. He's happy in the position but he's not responding when I ask him to sit. That's when I use the ball to open him up and get him flowing. Once e's opened up some more I try again. This time I help to the sit with my foot under his chest. We work a bit of heeling then move to the actual exercise i wanted to work, the send out. This session(3rd time) he does pretty well with it. He keeps he's focus on me for the heeling. Then when I cue him to look at the ball he transitions. i think there was one time in there he didn't go and just came back to me. other than that he runs out and grabs the ball. We'll transition to longer and longer sends. He is quite biddable and transitions to whatever I'm asking.
 
At the start he's just running around like maniac. Once he comes over, I put him in a down to get the obedience going. He's happy in the position but he's not responding when I ask him to sit. That's when I use the ball to open him up and get him flowing. Once e's opened up some more I try again. This time I help to the sit with my foot under his chest. We work a bit of heeling then move to the actual exercise i wanted to work, the send out. This session(3rd time) he does pretty well with it. He keeps he's focus on me for the heeling. Then when I cue him to look at the ball he transitions. i think there was one time in there he didn't go and just came back to me. other than that he runs out and grabs the ball. We'll transition to longer and longer sends. He is quite biddable and transitions to whatever I'm asking.
How do you transition the send out without the ball, I was using a redline send out tug today, and I had another leather tug in my hand. I put her in heel, wait, throw send out then release and down her when she gets to the send out item, recall and she comes back and hits the tug in hand.
 
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How do you transition the send out without the ball, I was using a redline send out tug today, and I had another leather tug in my hand. I put her in heel, wait, throw send out then release and down her when she gets to the send out item, recall and she comes back and hits the tug in hand.
I’m usually pretty cautious about how often I down them in the exercise. I typically add it in later. I’ll use an out and back method. I don’t want them thinking about the down and losing drive. To the question of transitioning away from the ball, it takes reps. It sounds like she understands the command to go to the target. That’s when I move to putting the target out like in the video, using some commands so they they have to take their focus off it, then cue and send. Once they have this, I just add distance to infinity( as much as the training area allows.) Eventually they are running to an out of sight target. For training I like to always have a ball at the end. TLDR, just add distance until the target is out of sight.
 
I’m usually pretty cautious about how often I down them in the exercise. I typically add it in later. I’ll use an out and back method. I don’t want them thinking about the down and losing drive. To the question of transitioning away from the ball, it takes reps. It sounds like she understands the command to go to the target. That’s when I move to putting the target out like in the video, using some commands so they they have to take their focus off it, then cue and send. Once they have this, I just add distance to infinity( as much as the training area allows.) Eventually they are running to an out of sight target. For training I like to always have a ball at the end. TLDR, just add distance until the target is out of sight.
Is their always a target for send outs in igp?
 
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Is their always a target for send outs in igp?
No. Sometimes there is and sometimes there isn’t. The field I did Cions 1 and 2 on didn’t. My old club didn’t. At the trial in Fayetteville there was a pip at the end of the field. Here at WDC there is a soccer goal. It’s probably the one exercise uiu should make sure to practice before a trial so the dog knows where you want them to go.
 
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