No boat rocked here

 

Reasoning? Although there are a few on your list I would never touch, there are some that I would feed if I could not financially afford the higher priced better quality foods. I feed raw, but I have a friend that feeds Eukanuba and her dogs are 12 and 10 and quite healthy. She adopted them both when they were puppies, and have had no real health issues.

 

That's what I was wondering...The reasoning for this....I can't afford food like Orijen, California Natural, etc. I feed Purina, Science Diet, and Pedigree to my dogs'. It keeps their poop firm, not to soft, and not too hard. They are both very healthy, and we haven't had a problem with the food either.

 

Pro Plan and Eukanuba are two that I don't consider "bad"... though I dont feed them to my dogs. Also Bil Jac??? And I have used Royal Canin with great success.

 

This is the only reply I will address because it is the 1st.

Pro plan ?? Ugh, look at the ingredient list of Large breed


Chicken, brewers rice, whole grain wheat, corn gluten meal, whole grain corn, poultry by-product meal (natural source of glucosamine), animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), pearled barley, corn germ meal, fish meal (natural source of glucosamine), animal digest, fish oil, wheat bran, salt, dried egg product, calcium phosphate, potassium chloride, potassium citrate, Vitamin E supplement, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, choline chloride, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), manganese sulfate, niacin, Vitamin A supplement, calcium carbonate, copper sulfate, calcium pantothenate, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, Vitamin B-12 supplement, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, calcium iodate, Vitamin D-3 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), folic acid, biotin, sodium selenite.
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Brewers rice is an extremely low grade of grain and what you might not realize is the whole plant is used, yes stalk, stems and so on.
Corn and wheat are in the same boat, they use the whole plant and with corn they include the cob. They use feed grade not what you get in the grocery store. I could go on and on about this product but it would be easier to talk about whats good in this dog food. Sodium selenite has been gone over on many different sites and most manufactures have dropped it. Sorry I would not feed this to a pig. Check this site out it will give you more info than I have time to give out.

The Dog Food Project - Ingredients to avoid


I believe the biggest issue with kibble is trust and Eukanuba is made by p&g which is a company I could never trust.

I gotta go and sorry about the typing as I can not reread my post. Good luck with your dogs. Kirkland, Plusar and Heathwise are all cheaper dog foods that are an much better option.

 

Kibble you should never feed....

anything over $50 a bag. I have fed many of the brands of kibble you don't like. My dogs have been happy healthy and long lived.

 

Rotfl!!!

kibble you should never feed....

>>>> anything over $50 a bag.<<<<

i have fed many of the brands of kibble you don't like. My dogs have been happy healthy and long lived.

 

 

that and this opcorn:.

 

I feed raw.

If I had to feed kibble because raw didn't exist...

- Orijen
- Acana
- Now
- Go!
- CaniSource
- Taste of the Wild
- Summit
- Lifetime ($40 for 30lb bag, for those who won't spend much money on dog food.)

Would never, ever, ever allow Hunter to eat a single kibble of brands such as Medi-Cal, Royal Canin, Ol Roy... nope. I would sooner induce vomiting. No offense to those who feed this food. I truly don't mean it, but I know canine biology and what they are meant to eat. That is my two cents.

 

I feed raw.

If I had to feed kibble because raw didn't exist...

- Orijen
- Acana
- Now
- Go!
- CaniSource
- Taste of the Wild
- Summit
- Lifetime ($40 for 30lb bag, for those who won't spend much money on dog food.)

Would never, ever, ever allow Hunter to eat a single kibble of brands such as Medi-Cal, Royal Canin, Ol Roy... nope. I would sooner induce vomiting. No offense to those who feed this food. I truly don't mean it, but I know canine biology and what they are meant to eat. That is my two cents.

The quality of the Acana food it what helped us select their food. And I like the fact that they are a Canadian company and support local Canadian agriculture.

 

Feed what your dogs do well on....and the owner can realistically afford.

 

Best.post.ever.!!!

I'm so sick of people who try to imply you're not a good owner if you don't spent at least $70/bag.

Come tell my poor Kirkland Sig. fed dogs who were all saved from death row that they are living a crappy life because they eat a $30/40lb. bag of food, or that they are somehow deprived.
Yeah, tell that to Petsmart's pin-up girl, poor thing has to eat Costco's kibble

We tell our adopters to avoid corn, wheat, soy, and by-products. But we don't get hung up with "it has to be $50+ per bag or you're feeding 'garbage' "!
Because I know that dogs have lived well into their teens for the past 50+yrs. on much much less than the better brands they have these days.

7. Liams

I didn't know Mr. Neeson had his own line of pet food...!?

 

You can eat McDonald's your whole life and still live as long as someone who doesn't. Doesn't mean it's good for you. Unfortunately, people won't care until they actually think about it and do their own research. The majority will not bother no matter how much you try to explain.

 

I love McDonalds. So if I can eat McDonalds my whole life and live as long as someone who doesn't why would I eat anything else?

 

I don't see any mention of kirkland brand being bad. I think it's quite good for the price. Much better then anything the OP listed. Also not sure why you're ranting about people saying you have to feed $70 bags of food. No one said you had to. Or am I missing something here?

 

Kirkland is actually a pretty decent food. Good price if I recall, too!

 

Not qualified in this area. However, have fed kibble from both ends of the spectrum. I feed the best quality food that they will eat, that produces good results, firm stools, good coats, etc. It usually lies somewhere in the middle.

 

OP - What is your reasoning on some of these? A few of these foods are decent, medium grade foods. What are you basing your opinion on?

 

Ingredient list and as I mentioned, TRUST. Help yourself and dog out and read this

The Dog Food Project - Ingredients to avoid

 

I would not feed it but I am hard pressed to try to argue with my neighbor whose seventeen year old husky has been fed Pedigree all it her life......

 

I understand that some people can't afford/don't want to spend $50+ on dog food, but there are brands out there that are so much better than Pedigree, Science Diet, etc that cost the same or less than they do (one example would be Kirkland that others have mentioned). It's all about marketing.

 

I understand that some people can't afford/don't want to spend $50+ on dog food, but there are brands out there that are so much better than Pedigree, Science Diet, etc that cost the same or less than they do (one example would be Kirkland that others have mentioned). It's all about marketing.

Many of the rescues in this area feed Pedigree including where I just got my puppy from. My vet suggests Science Diet as being one of the better ones but has said she has seen dogs on Old Roy with beautiful coats and dogs on the expensive brands with dry terrible coats. It is all about the dog and what the dog will tolerate. I feed Science Diet and Canine Royal and have had great success and long lived dogs. My dogs like it, they do well on it and I don't see any sense in paying more when my dogs are happy and healthy. BTW Kirkland is a costco brand so you might be paying less for the dog food but you are paying to be a member.

 

I do look for what I think is quality food, but that said, wish as many folks would be feeding their children half as well with as much attention to nutrition!

 

hello to all
although you might not agree i feed my baby Torque Eukanuba.
he is doing great on the food and loves it- his coat looks beautiful!

at the moment he is eating 3 cups or more a day [3 months] i would like to feed him something more affordable when he gets to the point where he is going thru a bag much quicker lol i am assuming after the 1 year mark.

what do u guys think of kirkland brand? i have read some good reviews and bad reviews .. do any of you members feed your pups Kirkland??Thanks!

 

I would highly recommend Kirkland, if one doesn't have a Costco card, they can get 4Health or Diamond Naturals from feed stores or specialty pet stores (not the pet store chains).

 

The adage: You are what you eat, and you are what your food eats. Some dogs are very thrifty and can eke a lot out of a little. Some dogs are very sensitive and require high quality food. Some cannot handle certain high quality foods due to richness or ingredients. If "good enough" really is good enough, then leave well enough alone. If you want to see what a difference a quality diet can make, try it out. On the other hand, some dogs can't handle any sort of boat-rocking, either.

A lot of dogs look fine on what they are eating, but if I pet a dog and feel like my hand needs to be scrubbed down with Dawn, the dog could probably benefit from a diet change. "Doggie odor" is not really normal, either.

 

msvette2u- I agree with your last post. I almost drank that kool aid that says you must pay $$$ for a good quality dog food. There are some brands mentioned in this thread that I would never feed, but some that were deemed as bad & would feed if my boy did good on it.

The kibble debate exhausts me and I feel liberated after switching to raw.

 

thank you for the response msvette2u.

 

I feed both dogs and both my cats Authority and now all my family feeds their animals the same, my vet has no problem with it and all the animals are healthy and happy

 

We fed Authority way back when we first got our dogs (2001) and our GSD pup at the time could not handle the corn in the food.

Authority Dog Food - Real Chicken Chunk | PetSmart

For the price vs. ingredient difference I'd choose something without corn in it, but if your dogs look fine and their stools are fine, then don't "fix" it

 

We fed Authority way back when we first got our dogs (2001) and our GSD pup at the time could not handle the corn in the food.

Authority Dog Food - Real Chicken Chunk | PetSmart

For the price vs. ingredient difference I'd choose something without corn in it, but if your dogs look fine and their stools are fine, then don't "fix" it

I'm aware of the corn, but they haven't had any adverse effects

My sister and brother in law have two dogs, a min pin and a doberman. They had the min pin on a raw chicken diet but he was very thin, so they switched him to Authority kibble for the winter and are pondering whether to switch back. The doberman was a rescue who was very underweight when they got him and they put him on Authority but then decided to go to a higher quality food (I can't remember the brand but it was $70 a bag compared to $40 for Authority) but they found he developed skin problems and actually lost weight on it so they've switched him back

 

Corn doesn't digest. That's a fact. In humans, let alone dogs.

Only birds with their specialized digestion can make use of it, biologically speaking.
When you choose a dog food you pick the most digestibility, and soy, corn, and wheat are allergy triggers (because they've been so overused in dog food manufacturing) but mainly, do not digest so dogs cannot make use of it.

Dog food producers use corn because it's so cheap. If I'm going to pay a lot, I'd better see no corn on the labels When you can buy corn-free food for less than what food with corn goes for, that's a problem, IMO.

 

Corn doesn't digest. That's a fact. In humans, let alone dogs.

Only birds with their specialized digestion can make use of it, biologically speaking.

Say WHAT? ! ?

And, other than a gizzard, what is specialized about bird digestion?
I will give you that we do not digest the little "husks" of the individual corn kernels but that is true of any grain.

Not saying corn is a great additive and is WAY overused in processed foods, but I have never heard such a thing and corn is a staple in many cultures.

 

What do the experts here think about 4health???
I tried blue buffaloe and was cleaning soft soup-y poops out of the yard for the whole month!
Now I have them on 4health...better poops...
Is this a good choice or what?

 

What do the experts here think about 4health???
?

first, there are no experts here. lol Only people with opinions!

Second, I tried it with our youngest Boxer and found it inconsistent. One bag she was fine on, the next gave her terrible gas. One she would eat, the next she wouldn't touch. We just started her on all life stages Canidae and so far, so good. It's a mid range food with a decent price.

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showproduct.php/product/2034

 

I read the ingredients and they are very decent ones, comparable to the Kirkland and Diamond Naturals products.
If we didn't feed Kirkland due to the fact we have a Costco card and can go there, and their food is around $28-30/40lb., and 4Health was around $32/35lb., I'd buy it.

Kirkland's the easiest on our budget right now, is all

 

I read the ingredients and they are very decent ones, comparable to the Kirkland and Diamond Naturals products.
If we didn't feed Kirkland due to the fact we have a Costco card and can go there, and their food is around $28-30/40lb., and 4Health was around $32/35lb., I'd buy it.

Kirkland's the easiest on our budget right now, is all

When Rogue came to us she was on purina...
I have only tried tastes of the wild, blue buffaloe, and 4 health
tastes of the wild was just mediocre to them and expensive to me
they liked bb but i hated the poops afterwards
and we all love 4 health
thumbs up for finding the perfect dog food

 

4Health is a decent food if you don't mind that it's made by Diamond. That's probably the main issue people would have with that food.

 

Never heard of Liams, but if I see it I will avoid it.

 

It's on the shelf next to Purnia