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he is a beast! could they be a cross?

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Ok now I have found a forum I apologise in advance for the amount of things I may ask, owning a GSD is far different than growing up with them.

So my pups are almost 6 months, 11th nov.
My pups are huge, which I knew they would be. however, I just measured Arlo's height, it is 25.5 inch toe to shoulder, not toe to head. havent checked his weight yet. trixie wont let me check her height, will try again tomorrow. but she isnt an awful lot smaller than her brother.

my question is....is this normal?? all the charts im finding online keep showing around 16 for his age. Could he be a cross? if so what with do you think. I have ordered a DNA test kit for them both.

it does not bother me if they are cross, I just would like to know what im working with temperment, training style etc etc, im just curious to what you guys all think.

this is Arlo and Trixie aprox 2 months ago:
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Arlo now, taken 2 weeks ago:


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#5 ·
How big were mom and dad? Where did you get these pups and do you have a pedigree for them?
There are an awful lot of oversized German Shepherds running around.
If you told me they were purebred I would believe you. If you told me they were mixed I would believe you.
Well i was told they were purebred, I saw momma she was pure bred, but not sure on the father.
how n earth do they become over sized, and will this compromise their health etc later on?
 
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[agrees with Sabis Mom] Yes, it's impossible to be sure without a DNA test, and I really can't tell from the picture. There are a couple of things that make me go hmmm...could be something else in there...but it's hard to say for sure. And there ARE an awful lot of oversized purebred GSDs out there, as well as dogs that look like GSDs, but aren't (King Shepherds and Shiloh Shepherds both have some other breeds mixed in, and both are bred to be taller than the GSD.)
 
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Their DNA packs arrived this AM, so im excited to see what the results are.
Like you there are a few things that have made me go hmmm.
well I knew I was gettin large dogs....didnt think they would be beast hahhaa. I didnt realise there was such a thing as over sized GSDs, just one of ours was larger than the others when I was a kid, so I thought surely they would seem smaller to me now I am grown up, and well, hes big. hahhaa.
 
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Breeding a dog responsibly means getting it registered and titled (conformation or working titles) having hip x-rays and other health tests done, etc. etc. You also need to learn about the breed and study pedigrees to determine which dogs are the best match. It's much more than just randomly putting together a male and female of the same breed.

Whelping and raising a litter is messy, time consuming and exhausting. If there are problems with the birth, you may find yourself paying big bucks for a C-section delivery, or other help from a veterinarian. I really don't recommend it until you've had much much more experience with the breed than you do now.

You should wait until she's at least a year old before you spay her. Early spay/neuter means the growth plates on the bones don't close as early as they should. As a result, the pup will grow taller and be more prone to joint and ligament problems. It also increases the risk of certain cancers.
 
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It depends on the dog, Luna. My first intact female had this little pad holder, held with elastic belts. The good thing about it was she could push it aside to lick herself. I think one of the reasons my two other female didn't tolerate special heat panties or diapers was because they couldn't clean themselves.

Would love to find one of those pad holders, but alas, it seems no one makes them anymore. The current thin menstrual pads fitted the holder perfectly!
 
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I'd wait until at least 2 yo before spaying the bitch and the same for neutering the dog. As far as bitch britches go, my two intact bitches thought they were special and would run to have them put on. But bitch britches are not chastity. belts ....

I spayed the most recent two at about 4 (false pregnancies) and at 8 (pyometra) No breeding took place in those years. One only came into heat at about 2 yo, the other closer to 12 mos.
 
#30 ·
UPDATE.
They are level 1 German Shepard and level 5 tan and black Coonhound.
ShepHERD, not shepARD.

What does level 1 and level 5 mean? I've never seen a DNA test that puts it that way. Usually it's a percentage of each breed.
 
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#27 ·
i got Keystone from the shelter when he was about 8 months and was informed that they’d also removed seven other dogs from the residence. i asked what breeds just out of curiosity and was told german shepherds, malinois and “some other herding type dogs”. Keys is smaller than a GSD and the shape of his ears is a bit off….. did the Wisdom panel - came back as 50% GSD, 35.5% Mal, 12.5% Cattle dog. No reason for me to doubt the test….although I suppose the percentages could be off and I have no way of knowing if either of his parents were purebred or what breed came from which side.
 
#29 ·
If one was intensely interested in how the testing is done and the accuracy I'm guessing the fine details are available to research online. But then there's the matter of is the service chosen to do the testing have an impeccable record. Anyway, I'm satisfied with the results from the two dogs I had tested.The first dog I sent a picture, the second dog the only Info provided was Dog,Female.