[Nscullin]

that’s a good question, I can ask for clarification but I don’t think that the sire and the dam themselves have competed or been titled in anything or etc... is that a red flag? I mean as I said I have personally seen them both work and they are SUPER smart and great at what they do (I have videos if it would help), but as far as I know that’s about the extent of it. Thoughts?


Right, so what are I suggesting I do?

I have certificates hips/elbows and etc for both parents, all of it good or excellent, I have genetic testing information on hand done for both parents everything clear, and I have lineage/pedigree information for both lines , what else do I need and/or should ask for? Both parents don’t own championships themselves, that much I know. I really don’t know much about how to quantify them as ‘breed worthy’ if not for what I already have, so help me out?

In shepherds, USUALLY people like to see titles to prove breed worthiness.


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[Jax08]

I'm not suggesting anything. All I'm saying is champion lines do not equal breed worthy and training in your backyard is not equivalent to titling or a dog that actually works. It's part of the process but my dog doesn't experience stress in my back yard that he/she does in a strange venue with strange dogs. Adn stress is where you really see what the dog is made of. And both come from champion lines. Pretty much all dogs have champions in the line. Popular stud syndrome.

I get that you met and watched the dogs. But did you understand what you were seeing? Or did you just see a dog biting and thinks that was cool? I'm not asking to be a jerk and I don't expect an answer from you. I'm on my 2nd dog in training and just now grasping concepts in protection so just think about what you really understood of what you were seeing.

 

[WIBackpacker]

With that pedigree, I would want to see both parents titled. JMO.

It's one thing to have a mellow dog that isn't really cut out for any sort of dog sport.

It's another entirely to end up with a puppy with tons of drive/power/aggression that doesn't have a clear head, or has a side helping of health problems.

 

[Jax08]

Before making any decisions, why don't you go visit some clubs and see if anyone knows of this breeder?

Region/Events | United Schutzhund Clubs of America

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[WIBackpacker]

If you are looking at the Nash / Vica litter:

Nash is currently 1 year and 4 months old. Nash Provocativo – working-dog

Qvido has many, MANY offspring available. What reason is there to breed an untitled 1 year old male?

 

[wolfy dog]

If you are looking for a "middle of the road" temperament in these lines, maybe look for a lesser drive combo?

 

[rotdocpa1]

The pedigree looks much more West German than Czech which I prefer myself. However a lot of drive in this pedigree. Are you serious about training? Do you have the time? If not you can't just park this maserati in the garage. We have 4 workingline shepherds currently from varying lines and they are a lot of work.

 

[Shepardmom]

Hey guys!

So my family and I are very interested in bringing home a working line shepherd from a breeder we have met and fully trust.

I wanted to ask though, how many of you guys would consider your Sheps ‘cuddly’ dogs? Like do any of you guys get the constant snuggles, couch time, very affectionate type behavior from your dog’s, or is it just 100% drive, go go go time all day long 24/7? How about kids and other dogs? I realize for sure it’s all about training and socialization early and all of that, but we have a 6 month old who I fully intend to raise along side my pup, and there are several other dogs in my life (my moms, my brothers, my friends all have dogs... etc), so at the very least, I need neutrality... at best, I would love her to be able to play.

Don’t get me wrong I have done HUNDREDS of hours of research online, met dozens and dozens of shepherds from all kinds of lines, I settled on this Czech Working Line dog for a reason (I want everything that comes with that), I intend to do some agility work, definitely some high level obedience and etc, maybe even some personal protection work down the line. I just also if possible, would still love some of that cuddly/loving affection time I have been so used to getting from my bully breed dogs as well... if that is even possible? I guess what I’m looking for is experience with a good ‘off switch’, even with a dog from the Czech, the DDR, etc.

Thanks in Advance, picture of the mom and dad (left and center) of the puppies we are interested in. Thanks!

My DDR is not cuddly, LOL, and there is a good chance if I tried to hug him to long, he would break my nose by accident. 🤷‍♂️ But I love him with all my heart.

 

[WNGD]

I was on a Zoom call with a co-worker yesterday. He has a 3 month old newborn girl and one of those super trendy French Bulldogs - 12 weeks old. That puppy stayed perfectly content on his lap basically not moving or making any noise for longer than my dogs have ever not been active without sleeping at 12 weeks. Different dogs altogether; GSD aren't normally couch dogs or overly "cuddly" but the bond is no less strong, I'd wager stronger.

 

[finn'smom]

Having lived with 2 GSDs at different times and 2 mastiffs (a Corso and a Dogo Argentino)

The Corso was my snuggle dude, he was confident and friendly and great with everyone but when I sat down ... he could not get close enough, and it was constant! He always wanted affection, and preferred if we were touching. The Dogo was a foster and was with me a few months - she was very similar, perhaps a tad more independent around the house but she was what I'd call a cuddle bug as well.

GSD 1 - possibly more east German or DDR lines but was a backyard tug at my heart strings who came home with me to be fed some food and rid of fleas. He would tolerate any affection I wanted to give him but didn't often seek it out. He was quiet around the house and not very friendly to strangers at all. If I was doing it that dog would have stood for almost anything - handing him over to a stranger was never a sure thing.

GSD 2 - his dad is def a czech line working pick from a litter - mom was told to me to be WGWL but lower drive and energy dog... Super confident and social dog at approx 1.5yrs, he's busy and engaged but quiet in the house once his needs are met. He is not overly tolerant of being handled, started out that way as a puppy. We practice all the time and I can bathe him without a collar or leash now, trim his nails with only a little squirming, brush him, clean his ears and play in his mouth to check his teeth ...the basics of being handled. He occasionally seeks out affection and climbs into my lap for a snuggle but it's on his terms, he doesn't "enjoy" snuggles and affection unless he's the one who came looking. If he knows I'm getting ready for work he has a sudden "need" for snuggles and wants to sit in my lap - the rest of the time he enjoys a good scratch and itch session but that's it.

 

[wolfy dog]

If you like a cuddly dog, you will take a chance with a GSD pup.

 

[Heartandsoul]

One thing of the many that I learned from my boy was to put a lot of what he valued into the stuff I liked to do with him. He was a “what’s in it for me kind of guy” so whenever he came to me, I was always scratching and rubbing his sweet spots. Or giving belly rubs while getting my hugs in. He was about 75% Czech, some ddr way back and some other lines. I got him addicted to my hugs so much so that he sought me out.

So put value to your cuddle time and when he wants to end the cuddle session, never ever restrain him. This should do the trick if your consistent with the method. Oh, and dont expect much cuddles in the first month or two unless he’s sleeping.

My guys true show of affection was very vigorous head to head rubbing and the forehead to forehead mind-meld.

 

[Gustav2020]

Hey guys!

So my family and I are very interested in bringing home a working line shepherd from a breeder we have met and fully trust.

I wanted to ask though, how many of you guys would consider your Sheps ‘cuddly’ dogs? Like do any of you guys get the constant snuggles, couch time, very affectionate type behavior from your dog’s, or is it just 100% drive, go go go time all day long 24/7? How about kids and other dogs? I realize for sure it’s all about training and socialization early and all of that, but we have a 6 month old who I fully intend to raise along side my pup, and there are several other dogs in my life (my moms, my brothers, my friends all have dogs... etc), so at the very least, I need neutrality... at best, I would love her to be able to play.

Don’t get me wrong I have done HUNDREDS of hours of research online, met dozens and dozens of shepherds from all kinds of lines, I settled on this Czech Working Line dog for a reason (I want everything that comes with that), I intend to do some agility work, definitely some high level obedience and etc, maybe even some personal protection work down the line. I just also if possible, would still love some of that cuddly/loving affection time I have been so used to getting from my bully breed dogs as well... if that is even possible? I guess what I’m looking for is experience with a good ‘off switch’, even with a dog from the Czech, the DDR, etc.

Thanks in Advance, picture of the mom and dad (left and center) of the puppies we are interested in. Thanks!

I have a 7mo male Czech working line GSD, who is very much affectionate, and as expected highly active and needing stimulation most all of the time. My experience is just with this little guy, and aside from that my parents and my husband grew up with varied Shepherd dogs. My husband would only allow a GSD in our home based on his family history of them, and so I spent over a year researching, educating myself and looking for the right breeder and lineage for what my family wanted.

Not snuggly Much at all unless on his terms, usually with mom first thing in the morning for 5 minutes and with dad when he gets home from work for 5 minutes. Otherwise he is going. He is busy, he thrives on structure which makes giving him the stimulation he needs a fair balance for us.

He prides himself on being a part of our family. We have young adult children, so no little ones within the home but I’ve got young nieces and nephews and from a young age he has always shown an extra level of care with them. In fact he adores them.

In general he looks to us for queues in how to respond to people and assess family and friends versus strangers. As many say every dog, even from the same litter can be so different.

When you put affection and cuddles together and I think of my boy, I can’t really intertwine the two. I don’t get much in the way of snuggles but he shows me an insane amount affection with his trust in me and his desire to work hard for us. These dogs are BRILLIANT. That, even though I did my research, has blown me away.

My advice in my lesser experience stick with your research, ask lots of questions specifically to exactly those things you want for your home and family. The breeder should be able to give you a good picture of the temperament of not only both parents but grandparents too.

Good luck!