Victor recently changed their packaging on all of their formulas but that was not the only change. Along with the new bags, all of the formulas have changed. All formulas now have blood meal due to a reduction in meat meal as a protein source. The grain free formulas have peas higher on the ingredient list. Some have now also added garbanzo beans into the ingredient list. Formulas like the Yukon salmon moved salmon out of the first few ingredients. All formulas also now have Tetra Sodium Pyrophosphate and Vegetable Oil in them. They have added the blood meal to still be able to claim the same protein levels while decreasing the amount of meat in them. Victor also removed the general analysis tab that they had on their website for each formula and now only have the guaranteed analysis. Calorie content per cup decreased on almost every formula as well. I am disappointed in the change in the brand and wanted to give others a heads up. It seems the popularity got to them and in order to keep prices the same they needed to modify the ingredients and in my opinion, downgrade. I will be switching.
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Switched from Fromm to Victor about 3 months ago, because my dog got disinterested with the former. Ever since then, he eats all his meals, and seems to enjoy it much more. Got 2 big bags recently, and noticed no difference in his appetite and demeanor towards it. Victor and its sensible price compare to others, has worked for us, and unless there are reports base on factual evidence; or issues with this product and its new formulation, we are not changing his current food. :|
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My dogs have both done very well on all the Victor formulas we have tried. I've fed Hi-Pro Plus, Ultra Pro and am currently feeding Nutra Pro. They have done equally well on all of them.
I, personally, see no reason to consider switching foods at this point. Fact is, Victor is still a privately owned company that manufactures their own foods and has an unblemished record for quality control. They have been around for many years, have always manufactured their own foods, and have never had a recall. Unless I see this change, or my dogs no longer do as well as they do on their foods, I don't see any reason to change.
My local feed and supply store, which is where I buy their foods, still has the old bags/formulas in their supply chain. We just opened a 40 pound bag of Nutra Pro a few days ago, so it will be a little while before I see the reformulated version. I don't anticipate it being an issue when we switch to the reformulated version, but will update on our experience if there's a compelling reason to.
I, personally, see no reason to consider switching foods at this point. Fact is, Victor is still a privately owned company that manufactures their own foods and has an unblemished record for quality control. They have been around for many years, have always manufactured their own foods, and have never had a recall. Unless I see this change, or my dogs no longer do as well as they do on their foods, I don't see any reason to change.
My local feed and supply store, which is where I buy their foods, still has the old bags/formulas in their supply chain. We just opened a 40 pound bag of Nutra Pro a few days ago, so it will be a little while before I see the reformulated version. I don't anticipate it being an issue when we switch to the reformulated version, but will update on our experience if there's a compelling reason to.
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I am pretty well into the transition and was concerned the removal of monmorillonite clay would have an adverse impact on Beau's stools as it "seemed" to be the magic ingredient for him. So far I have noticed no change. He eats the 24/20 high energy blend. We do our annual blood panels in July but that won't really be enough time for assesment I don't think
I just recently switched to the Pro formula (the formula that my breeder uses for her adult GSDs) from the Hero Canine formula and the Nutra Pro formula. He's on his first bag of that. I just ordered 2 more bags yesterday. The Pro formula is much cheaper at $45 per 40 lbs bag. Under 50 bucks, I don't get the free shipping so I had to order 2 bags. Hard to tell from just one bag, but so far so good. No problems. No diarrhea yet. Poops are good. No allergies. Dog is happy. Btw, I don't know if the Pro formula changed or not.
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You know they added a 50lb bag that is cheaper by the pound and meets the $50 cut off if you are using Chewy. I think all the formulas changed - blood meal added in (allowed Ca
to be lowered to get all life stages designation), monmorillonite clay removed, flax removed (yay), and they added millet to the grain mix. I would love to get the old general analysis but they have not sent it to me. I noticed calories dropped on the Hi Energy (which is basically the same formula, just a tad lower protein and higher fat)LOL I have to laugh - people are all about how great Fromm is (hey its a good company) but while folks challenge the blood meal in Victor, they seem to not bat an eye at the cheese that is in every Fromm formula I have ever reviewed......
I've decided that's because nutrition (dog, human, whatever) is more emotion and witchcraft than science. As an example, for humans, there are more and more reports coming out that high cholesterol is not linked to heart disease after all. And that includes the bad cholesterol. That one was considered an absolute fact. High (bad) cholesterol will kill you! Get tested at your doctor right away! Except maybe not after all.
What makes it worse is that people's views on nutrition is quasi based in science. If it is just opinions and feelings people can (sometimes) understand when someone else feels differently. But when someone takes the findings of an study that did not involve enough subjects to reach conclusions and reaches conclusions anyway they really, really believe. If someone suggests it might not be true they can point to the numbers! Nevermind that nutrition is insanely complicated and it is almost impossible for any study to be conclusive.
Oh cr*p! I didn't even pay attention to that. If I knew, I would've ordered the 50lbs bag. I just did the easy "reorder" thing. I assumed the 40lbs bag was the big bag. Oh well. But at least the 40lbs bag fits in my container perfectly and I won't have to order for at least 2 months. Thanks NancyJ for informing me.You know they added a 50lb bag that is cheaper by the pound and meets the $50 cut off if you are using Chewy. I think all the formulas changed - blood meal added in (allowed Ca
LOL I have to laugh - people are all about how great Fromm is (hey its a good company) but while folks challenge the blood meal in Victor, they seem to not bat an eye at the cheese that is in every Fromm formula I have ever reviewed......
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Thanks everyone.
It does make sense what Colorado mentioned. That is why it is important to go by how your dog looks and feels and overall health.
Fromm is a food I use in rotation it is a good company. The food has cheddar cheese listed pretty far down in the ingredient list so if it makes the food more edible and a good fatty acid I am okay with that.
It does make sense what Colorado mentioned. That is why it is important to go by how your dog looks and feels and overall health.
Fromm is a food I use in rotation it is a good company. The food has cheddar cheese listed pretty far down in the ingredient list so if it makes the food more edible and a good fatty acid I am okay with that.
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I have 2 dogs on it and a boarder on it. I assume mine are eating the new stuff....I'm honestly not sure but they go thru it pretty fast and I am always getting new bags from Chewy. Things have been so crazy I couldn't swear if the bag is different or not....?
My two and my boarder are doing great-- my boarder I suggested Victor to the owner to improve stools, and it has done that very well just like it did for my dogs.
My two and my boarder are doing great-- my boarder I suggested Victor to the owner to improve stools, and it has done that very well just like it did for my dogs.
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Oh the cheese does not bother me. Just that people are all upset about blood meal (though I do gather some of the new hi pro formulas really use a lot of it); it is not so much in the classic formulas
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Since ive started feeding the new Nutra Pro about 2 weeks ago my dog has had diarrhea. I talked to Victor who said the ingredient swap wouldnt cause that but his poops have been solid and dark since he was 8 weeks old and now just mush. I dont want to switch because every other food on the market is grain free, which I dont want to feed him, but if this lasts much longer I think im going to have to.
*I did call Victor and they told me all the blood meal is sourced from a local chicken farm
*I did call Victor and they told me all the blood meal is sourced from a local chicken farm
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Every brand of food has grain free and grain options at least that’s what I have seen. I know max got sick once on fromm pork option I also bought from a different pet store. Could of been coincidence and got into something, rancid bag or just food. I still feed fromm in addition just not the pork recipe. Had not had any issues since. It could of been coincidence and gotten into something, change ingredients, a rancid bag Keep us posted. I can see it may be important to save original bag for the switch even with their strong stomachs just to be safe. They are on the high pro plus Thanks! Hope your boy feels better.
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I know its grain free but whats the consensus on TOTW? Im thinking about possibly switching to the Pacific stream. We have a vet visit for Saturday so if they cant find any parasites or anything im going to switch the food up and see if that works.
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I absolutely refuse to feed any Diamond Brands product anymore. Before one of the recalls I notified the company to a rancid batch of food that my dog would not eat and they told me it was "all good" well I trusted my dog more than the company and a month later that particular lot was part of a massive recall and horrible GMP issues in one of their facilities. I live in SC and I know that regulation is viewed pretty lightly down here.
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I’ve been feeding the new formula, and nothing has changed with my dogs. Dark, firm poop. Everything normal.
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I still have not yet to see the new Victor dog food I did pick up a fromm bag a new recipe in the four star line that they came out with this month. It’s Highlander beef oats and barley although pricier then the gold I was feeding recently even more pricier then the fromm grain free - I used to feed which both their coats looked the absolute best on. I like the protein percentages on this new recipe though as it what I was looking for in the fromm line. Expensive though definitely spoiled with Victor prices. I picked up this new Fromm recipe and giving it a try in their rotation with victor. The dogs like the taste of both food. I am excited to see how they do on this new recipe. - interesting to see they took the alfalfa meal out.
https://frommfamily.com/products/dog/four-star/dry/highlander-beef-oats-n-barley-recipe
https://frommfamily.com/products/dog/four-star/dry/highlander-beef-oats-n-barley-recipe
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