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As the title asks, Why wasn't Hank vom Weinbergblick a more prolific producers?

Dog won the WUSV three times and BSP twice, so he's quite accomplished. Was he not a very good producers or just never made the rounds, so to speak?
 

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He was bred 83 times. How many times can they be bred before their book is closed?

As far as breeding over here, the owner's GF doesn't have a popularity factor going on. Certainly not at the time that Hank would have been at his best.

Does anyone know what he was throwing temperament and health wise? His progeny hips and elbows seem 50/50 from winsis.
 

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It's only one bitch but my dog's mother is a Hank progeny. She has HD-OFA Good, and is a very calm dog with strong drives. Of course, you would need to know a lot of the offspring to be able to generalize.

Secretariat was the greatest race horse in history but didn't produce a large number of race winners. Genetics can be strange.
 

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Thanks for the replies, but I was hoping the thread wouldn't turn into a discussion if he was the best dog in the world or whatever. Just noticed that his progeny weren't all that prevalent in top competitions like, for example, Pike del Lupo Nero's progeny have been.
 

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I would think besides the genetics that Hank possessed as a sire, another consideration would be about how picky they were about who they allowed him to mate with. Was it based on quality of the dam or were they trying to maximize revenue? Further, how picky were the breeders who owned the dams about where they placed puppies? Only high end trainer/competitors or owner/trainers who are just getting into IPO, or families for example?

All of these things would have a significant affect on the results that the offspring would show.
 

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Just because a dog is good doesn't mean he will be a good producer. Breeding to bitches that are a good match genetically would also be a factor, but not many breeders go to the trouble to learn the dogs behind what they are breeding to see what they have produced so they can try to predict what dominant genes will likely be passed on. A top sport winner will get breedings simply due to being a top sport dog, without knowing how much of the dog's success was training vs. genetics. A potential stud dog needs to assessed off the sport field doing things other than patterned sport routines.
 
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