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Ok so I met this woman a few months ago (at the end of January) and I take Penny over to her place to let her play with her dog (a GSD named Stanley). Well this woman had the nerve to ask/beg me to borrow $150 to finish paying off the debt that she owes to the original owner of Stanley! She bought the dog back at the beginning of November and was apparently suppose to pay $400 for this dog, which she couldn't afford so has been paying a little here and a little there but its been almost 6 months! Honestly if you cant even pay off what you owe for the dog why did you get him?

The woman kept saying that she wouldnt be able to live without Stanley and that if she didnt get the money by the afternoon the original owner was coming to take the dog back (which I dont blame them!), but I never did give her the money, I have given thousands of dollars to "friends" to help them out in sticky situations, always leaving myself without to help others (I am one of those people who would give the shirt off my back if someone needed it) and even with promises that I would be paid back I have NEVER been reimbursed for loaning money, not once! So I've taken a stand now and wont lend money because its not fair to me.

Anyway... the woman was able to scrounge up $60 apparently and gave it to the original owner who gave her one more week to come up with the remaining $90. But now she is asking me for $25 so she can go buy the dog food!!! Like seriously? You cant even afford to feed the dog, you cant afford to pay for him, why did you get him! I know the original owners ( I had boarded Stanley with me twice in the last year, and would have bought Stanley but it was right after Diesel died and I was not ready), and I am temped to contact them and tell them that they should just give this person their money back and take the dog back... Stanley is on contract and is suppose to be neutered by the new owner which she wont do because A) She cant even afford to pay for food let alone $399+ tax to fix him and B)Has told me numerous times that she is going to breed him! So I just think the dog deserves to be in a better situation.

I really feel for the new owner, I get that she has caner and such but thats no excused. And I dont want her to feel miserable if the dog is taken back but at the same time I just think she took advantage of the original owner, tried to take advantage of me, and is not holding up the contract on which she was sold the dog.

So why do people get dogs when they know they cant afford them! Ugg just makes me frustrated!
 

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poor Stanley! He is shifted around, and now with someone who either really cannot afford him or is just scheming to get cash out of people....

It bugs the heck out me when people complain that they cannot afford their dogs....when they have so many dogs they complain they cannot afford even the medium quality food they feed. When they breed dogs to make money and keep too many dogs to care for properly.

If you know Stanley's owner, I would probably contact them, and say that if anything is not well in his present situation, you would be happy and willing to take him over - if she tells you about the other person's problems paying, I would acknowledge that I knew about it, and express doubts about his future well being....bottom line, it is about caring for the dog and if the original owner is ill, she may be relieved to get him in a home better equipped to care for him.

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There are a lot of people out there that have dogs that can't afford them, but that doesn't mean they don't love them. The dog is doing something for her that probably nothing or no one else can. If that dog has food, a place to live, and love..its doing better then a lot of other dogs. No I don't think you understand what its like to have cancer and that alone should make you stop and think about this person and how they have to live everyday not knowing when that disease will take them. It is not your place to call anyone up and say anything. This is between her and the breeder.
 
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Why do people get anything that hey can't afford? We buy electronics when it's not a necessity or we eat out, or we just must buy those shoes! People always make impulsive decisions unfortunately not only their wallets have suffer the consequences :( it's very different than country I'm from, there if u have no cash that means you don't get to have it... USA though loves debt


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Why do people get anything that hey can't afford? We buy electronics when it's not a necessity or we eat out, or we just must buy those shoes! People always make impulsive decisions unfortunately not only their wallets have suffer the consequences :( it's very different than country I'm from, there if u have no cash that means you don't get to have it... USA though loves debt


And this lady has cancer and dog may not heal her physically, but it will help her get through it emotionally.I think that one of the purpose of dogs is to bring people joy and teach us lesson to love no matter what...


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But now she is asking me for $25 so she can go buy the dog food!!! Like seriously? You cant even afford to feed the dog, you cant afford to pay for him, why did you get him! ... Stanley is on contract and is suppose to be neutered by the new owner which she wont do because A) She cant even afford to pay for food let alone $399+ tax to fix him and B)Has told me numerous times that she is going to breed him! So I just think the dog deserves to be in a better situation.

There is more to this than the owner being ill - she can't afford the food and sees a way to use this dog to make money off of him....

if it was truly just a situation with someone ill, and unable to provide basic food due to that illness......who needs teh dog for emotional support - but apparently from the original post, the dog is going to make money for her (or at least she plans that he will)

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There are a lot of people out there that have dogs that can't afford them, but that doesn't mean they don't love them. The dog is doing something for her that probably nothing or no one else can. If that dog has food, a place to live, and love..its doing better then a lot of other dogs. No I don't think you understand what its like to have cancer and that alone should make you stop and think about this person and how they have to live everyday not knowing when that disease will take them. It is not your place to call anyone up and say anything. This is between her and the breeder.
No I dont have cancer but that doesnt mean I dont know what she is going through... I spent the better half of my childhood (right up until I was about 13) in and out of the hospitals with my cousin who was diagnosed with leukemia at the age of 3 ( I was 4) and saw exactly what he went throught, all the chemo and radiation and surgeries! I was a bone marrow donor for him and I went through quite a bit of procedures as well. And my great grandmother also had cancer and I have seen what it does, and I do completely understand it! It runs in my family and it is a huge fear that I will also get it at some point as it runs in my mothers and fathers family.
 

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There is more to this than the owner being ill - she can't afford the food and sees a way to use this dog to make money off of him....

if it was truly just a situation with someone ill, and unable to provide basic food due to that illness......who needs teh dog for emotional support - but apparently from the original post, the dog is going to make money for her (or at least she plans that he will)

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She brags all the time that the pups will be worth a lot because Stanley was in training to be a police dog and not just a regular service police dog but a Military police dog, so she thinks she will get more money out of him... I have never responded when she says stuff like this, it makes me sick.
 

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I often wonder the same things, but it's about children. Why do people have kids hey can't afford....

Anyway, Why would anyone sell their dog to a person who could not afford it. I place the blame more with them.
 

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She brags all the time that the pups will be worth a lot because Stanley was in training to be a police dog and not just a regular service police dog but a Military police dog, so she thinks she will get more money out of him... I have never responded when she says stuff like this, it makes me sick.

Does she have a female? Will she be breeding pups from that female and Stanley or thinks the world will flock to her door to use him for stud service???:rolleyes:

Either way - Stanley has apparently "washed out" of training - and to anyone knowledgeable, that is not a dog who should be used for breeding unless he is trained and titled in another venue....Sounds like Stanley is pet quality and should not be used as a breeding male at all.

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Sounds like the previous owner is just as bad as the current owner.

There's no way I would sell one of my puppies to someone that couldn't afford to pay a set monthly fee for the dog. If they can't afford that then how can they afford food, medical costs, etc.
 

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Sounds like the previous owner is just as bad as the current owner.

There's no way I would sell one of my puppies to someone that couldn't afford to pay a set monthly fee for the dog. If they can't afford that then how can they afford food, medical costs, etc.
I sold a puppy to someone who gave me 1/3 down and promised to pay the rest of it.

It worried me a little bit. Maybe she really can't afford the dog. But, she immediately took the dog to the vet, within 2-3 days, by which time they had bonded. And the vet found a heart murmur and told her she should return the puppy.

She called me. I had the dog to my vet three times already and they never discovered a heart murmur though they checked them every time they got shots. I had never had that problem. I told her I would call around, but if she wanted to return the dog that was fine. She said that she was on route to a specialist.

I called my vet and the stud owner, and both of them told me that yes, it can happen even though the dog had been checked several times, and the pup will probably outgrow it.

I called the buyer back and told her I would extend the money-back warranty for the heart issue for a month. (Usually I will refund money for two weeks, and beyond that I have a warranty that will replace a puppy, but not refund cash.) Anyhow, she had been to the specialist who did an EKG and it showed all the parts were there and that the puppy most likely will grow out of it.

Three weeks later she took him back and got him retested and all was good, it was gone.

This person sent me a payment of sometimes 25 dollars, more or less, pretty much every week, along with a progress report on the dog. I wrote a letter back every week with a receipt.

She paid him off days before his first birthday. I went to his obedience graduation, and then I trained a little with him last summer. She has had him in classes almost continually through the first year, and the dog's obedience is sharp, he looks great. But they like it, so they have continued.

Maybe I should not have sold a dog to someone who couldn't afford him, or come up with the whole amount, or promise a set amount each week or month. But I sure am glad I sold that lady her dog. She has done a lot more with him than some of the folks that gave me the full purchase price up front. And she went to a specialist within days of getting him. That dog will have an excellent life with his person.
 

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I don't think my problem would be selling a dog to someone who made payments, however, if they can't afford to buy the dog food, that would be a big problem for me and no way.
 
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Psssst!

Just a little secret for you: no one goes and buys a puppy, telling the breeder or owner that they won't be able to buy the dog food.

This lady is trying to get her friend to pay for her dog, and is using guilt trips and the friends love of dogs to try to get the money for dog food out of her. She is just a user.
 

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Your situation sounds totally different, Sue.

I wonder if the original owner is checking up on the dog or is also just in it for the money?

I know when I got Rafi I couldn't afford much for his adoption fee but I knew I could afford his food, supplements, etc.
 

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I had to save a long time to be able to afford Lisl.
 

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I have sold several pups on payment terms and the people were all able to take good care of the dogs....one is titled out the wazoo in agility with a married owner who works part time and wanted to pay for the dog herself, not ask hubby to buy it...why people want terms for a puppy priced at $1500+ is a bit different than not being able to feed the pup....Usually I get at least 1/3 of the purchase price prior to agreeing to terms....there are always reasons....Heck, I will finance a vehicle rather than wipe out my savings account!

That is not the point - this lady is not providing for this dog as she had agreed, and plans to use him for stud when she agreed to neuter him. He is a nice pet quality apparently, but a working wash out and IMO not breedworthy and would be better off with someone who can take care of him in a more responsible manner.

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Maybe she cannot afford it now, because medical bills are eating away at her wallet. Or maybe she is just seeing if she can get $ out of people by playing the sympathy card.


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There are a lot of people out there that have dogs that can't afford them, but that doesn't mean they don't love them. The dog is doing something for her that probably nothing or no one else can. If that dog has food, a place to live, and love..its doing better then a lot of other dogs. No I don't think you understand what its like to have cancer and that alone should make you stop and think about this person and how they have to live everyday not knowing when that disease will take them. It is not your place to call anyone up and say anything. This is between her and the breeder.
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