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I was just glancing over the O.M.G. thread and thought I would start a new one, as I am wondering, how owners feel, in general not that particular situation, about when dogs get hurt when playing at dog parks or just playing with other dogs, as far as responsibility for costs incurred?

When Heidi was young, she used to like to play chase with the other dogs at the dog park, and twice she nipped another dog's rear. The first time, I did not offer to take responsibility because, without going into detail, I did not see any injury and I felt that the owner was just trying as an afterthought to get money out of me. The second time I did see that the other dog (it was a greyhound, imagine Heidi "catching" a greyhound!) had a bite, and the owner said she didn't think he needed to go to the vet, but I gave her my phone number and begged her to call me if he did because I wanted to pay for it. I never heard from her.

So, I am just wondering: when dogs get hurt when playing, is it just an assumed risk we take when we let our dogs play with other dogs? Or is it the responsibility of the owner of the dog who caused the injury to pay the vet bill? I'm not sure how I feel, but I think I pretty much fall into the first camp that it is at your own risk, crap happens. Needless to say, Heidi stopped going to dog parks, but I can't imagine myself asking someone for money if my dog gets hurt playing. I'm talking about off leash play in a situation where both parties have agreed that our dogs should play; if Heidi is leashed and an off leash dog approaches us, that is another matter.
 

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It would depend. Did my dog get attacked? Or was it an accident during play? If Jax hurt another dog during play, and I knew for sure she did it, I would offer to pay part of it. If she attacked, I would grovel and pay all of it.
 

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My first German Shepherd bit the neighbors pup and torn its ear where it attaches to the head. It required several stitches to reattach it. I offered to pay the vet bill but the neighbors declined and said it was their sons fault for letting their pup in our yard.
 

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It's great to have reasonable neighbors, isn't it?

I guess I'm not talking about an attack. Hopefully, if a dog is prone to that, a person would know it and not let them play with dogs. Although, I realize there is a first time for everything. I'm really just talking about injuries either from play or maybe one dog has had it and gets snarfy with a playmate.
 

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It really depends on the situation....
 

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Yea I would say it depends I try not to let my dog get more than 5ft from me when playing with other dogs also when she is playing after min or two I break it up and give both dogs a break. It teaches them to take a break when playing and will help prevent one or the other dog from getting mad and lashing out.


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If your talking about a play date situation, I think you have to consider at the OMG thread. It's a good example of what can happen. No one seen it, but a wound was there. I think the OP of the thread was comendable for offering to pay half the vet bill in the first place.

In those situations of having play dates, it may not be a bad idea if the two parties make an agreement on how injuries will be delt with whether incidental or not. That way there is no gray area. Each owner knows where they stand in a situation. I would definitely put it in writing. If they don't want to sign, or agree, then you can either work an agreement out, or you can just walk away. Walking away is probably the better option if they don't want to agree and sign or are reluctant to sign.


As far as dog parks, I look at it as every dog for themselves including owners. Unless you have witnesses of negligence, your not going to get anyone to pay for anything.
 

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IMO in mutually agreed upon off leash play dates/dog parks....unless the dog that bit/injured another dog has known history of dog aggression it should be 'at your own risk' for all parties.

That won't stop some people from trying to capitalize on accidents though. Then, unless there was an agreement before hand, you're at the mercy of the judge/court, who may or may not be dog savvy person(s).

Last time I was working on proofing with distractions (outside of the off leash area at the local park) a human fight broke out because someone's dog did not have good doggy manners. :rolleyes:

Personally, I avoid the whole problem by not allowing my dog off leash with dogs owned by other person's whether at a dog park or a private residence, only exception is with my trainer's dogs.
 

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Me too. We don't go to dog parks anymore (even with my lab who probably could) and I am VERY careful what dogs I let her play with.
 

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IMO in mutually agreed upon off leash play dates/dog parks....unless the dog that bit/injured another dog has known history of dog aggression it should be 'at your own risk' for all parties.

That won't stop some people from trying to capitalize on accidents though. Then, unless there was an agreement before hand, you're at the mercy of the judge/court, who may or may not be dog savvy person(s).

Last time I was working on proofing with distractions (outside of the off leash area at the local park) a human fight broke out because someone's dog did not have good doggy manners. :rolleyes:

Personally, I avoid the whole problem by not allowing my dog off leash with dogs owned by other person's whether at a dog park or a private residence, only exception is with my trainer's dogs.
Agree! I believe it's an "enter at your own risk" type of situation....I don't really think it "depends on the situation" most of the time....you enter the dog park, you enter a risk of getting hurt while playing.
 

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It would depend. Did my dog get attacked? Or was it an accident during play? If Jax hurt another dog during play, and I knew for sure she did it, I would offer to pay part of it. If she attacked, I would grovel and pay all of it.
I feel the same.
 

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I was at a park/reservation where people always let their dogs off leash to run and play. One person thought it was a good idea to let their ITALIAN GREYHOUND out into the mix. She got T boned by a big dog running full speed and it did not look good for her at all , I would not be surprised if she did not make it :/

In a situation like that , I think the small dog's owner made a very bad decision and it is not the other dog's fault. All the dogs wee running , chasing balls. No idea what that IG's owner was even thinking?

If it is a situation where I fet my dog was being out of proportion too rough , I would offer to pony up. But if it was regular course of play stuff ( collision , head bangs , injured legs from jumping or turning ) I would chalk it up to perceived risk.
 

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I was at a park/reservation where people always let their dogs off leash to run and play. One person thought it was a good idea to let their ITALIAN GREYHOUND out into the mix. She got T boned by a big dog running full speed and it did not look good for her at all , I would not be surprised if she did not make it :/

In a situation like that , I think the small dog's owner made a very bad decision and it is not the other dog's fault. All the dogs wee running , chasing balls. No idea what that IG's owner was even thinking?

If it is a situation where I fet my dog was being out of proportion too rough , I would offer to pony up. But if it was regular course of play stuff ( collision , head bangs , injured legs from jumping or turning ) I would chalk it up to perceived risk.
That exact same thing happened to me. My dog was chasing a ball and an italian greyhound was zooming around and went right in front of him. Chrono SMASHED right into this dog and it flew up in the air. I couldn't believe the dog wasn't hurt. If the dog had gotten hurt and the owner had tried to grill me for money, there's no way I would have gave her a dime. Her dog shouldn't have stopped right in front of my dog.
 

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...lol I am sure if the poor little guy knew what was going to happen he wouldn't have stopped in front of your dog--
 

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I think it depends on the situation. In dog parks or other public off-leash areas, I'd tend to follow the "at your own risk" paradigm if an accidental injury occurred during play. But if I brought my dog over to someone's house, or they brought their dog to my house and the same thing happened, I'd feel bad about it, and at least offer to help out with any vet bills.

If an accidental play injury occurred with a client's dog on my property, I'd absolutely pay the vet bill. But for that reason, I don't generally let my client dogs out to play with other dogs, unless they are in the same family or know each other.
 

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That exact same thing happened to me. My dog was chasing a ball and an italian greyhound was zooming around and went right in front of him. Chrono SMASHED right into this dog and it flew up in the air. I couldn't believe the dog wasn't hurt. If the dog had gotten hurt and the owner had tried to grill me for money, there's no way I would have gave her a dime. Her dog shouldn't have stopped right in front of my dog.
This little IG I saw wasn't so lucky :/ They may have head to head collided , hard to tell they were moving so fast . The little IG was out cold and bleeding from not so great places :(

I also have a friend who had her dog at the dog park get so tangled with another ( 2 prong collars) that they almost strangled .

It is like kids..you just can't take your eye off them .
 

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Agreed off the leash play including a dog park IMO there is an assumed risk. There is a possibility that not every dog will get along with every other dog on this earth. its just not possible. So when 2 dogs end up getting into a tussle during a play date, dont get mad at the other persons dog. If your gets out of the yard and mauls another dog obviously there is going to be liability there
 

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I think most dog parks even have signs that inform user s that they use the park at thieir own risk.

If an accident happens during play I think you are not obligated. If your dog attacked, I think you are obligated. ANd don't ever bring the dog to the park again.
 
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