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Hi there,
I'm trying to think up some new distracting places to work on "sitting on the dog" with Gandalf. Any suggestions? Also would "sitting on the dog" outside the fence of a rowdy dog park be too much of a distraction for a teenage dog? Or would this be a good way to learn calmness around excited crazy dogs? We usually play ball outside the dog park fence but I wonder if this is a bad idea because it might make him more excited, associate crazy ball time=dogs?
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If you're new to the exercise, build off of his success in quieter environments first.
 

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After you have solid command of it in quiet environments, some good options are stores that allow dogs but aren't all about dogs.

Hardware stores, outdoor gear shops, garden centers, lumber yards, some mechanics and car washes often permit dogs.

Make sure you're appreciative and buy something, even if it's small - you're borrowing their real estate and taking up space. Don't interfere with their other customers, be extremely quiet and polite. Employees at those types of stores don't tend to fawn over dogs and stuff food in their faces, the way they do at pet supply shops. Makes it much easier to work with your dog.
 

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Are there strip malls near you? Maybe one with a grocery store or coffee shop with outdoor seating? We made heavy use of those for socialization with a puppy. They weren't terribly high activity but there was some exposure. With a little fuzzball, we did have a lot of people who wanted to meet the puppy, but a full sized GSD might well be ignored by most people (it's certainly the case when we take her places now) so he can be among people without interacting with them.
 

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After you have solid command of it in quiet environments, some good options are stores that allow dogs but aren't all about dogs.

Hardware stores, outdoor gear shops, garden centers, lumber yards, some mechanics and car washes often permit dogs.

Make sure you're appreciative and buy something, even if it's small - you're borrowing their real estate and taking up space. Don't interfere with their other customers, be extremely quiet and polite. Employees at those types of stores don't tend to fawn over dogs and stuff food in their faces, the way they do at pet supply shops. Makes it much easier to work with your dog.
Good ideas. Actually our home depot is worse than petsmart... he gets way more attention in there and the workers always give him treats even when I politely say no... including things he is allergic to EEK! They try to sneak it when I'm not looking. One lady that worked there even said "Dogs can't have allergies thats ridiculous!" and then fed my dog one of those fake sausage looking things :eek:
 

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Might be the wrong time of year to start this, but we often stop at nice little restaurants with outdoor patios. In Maryland, and a number of other states, restaurants can (but don't have to) allow dogs on the patio while their owners are dining.

If you try a park with a dog park, distance would be your friend and short duration would work. Farmer's markets are nice too and the outskirts of a fall town fair. Too late in the season for outdoor concerts, and probably too long for a young dog, but I've done that successfully in the past.
 

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Might be the wrong time of year to start this, but we often stop at nice little restaurants with outdoor patios. In Maryland, and a number of other states, restaurants can (but don't have to) allow dogs on the patio while their owners are dining.

If you try a park with a dog park, distance would be your friend and short duration would work. Farmer's markets are nice too and the outskirts of a fall town fair. Too late in the season for outdoor concerts, and probably too long for a young dog, but I've done that successfully in the past.
Check on farmers markets though. Dogs might not be allowed. People were freaking out on a neighborhood forum because someone tried to bring their dog to a farmers market and was asked to leave. One faction was "HOW DARE THEY ASK YOU TO LEAVE, DOGS ARE PEOPLE TOO" and the other was, "GUYS DOGS ARE BANNED BECAUSE FOOD HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW THAT."
 

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Might be the wrong time of year to start this, but we often stop at nice little restaurants with outdoor patios. In Maryland, and a number of other states, restaurants can (but don't have to) allow dogs on the patio while their owners are dining.

If you try a park with a dog park, distance would be your friend and short duration would work. Farmer's markets are nice too and the outskirts of a fall town fair. Too late in the season for outdoor concerts, and probably too long for a young dog, but I've done that successfully in the past.
Yep yep love the outdoor dog friendly restaurants. One of the perks of Florida (wait scratch that... the only nice thing about FL) is that most restaurants are dog friendly since we have such "nice" weather year round. Heres a pic of him at breakfast, he does great even with the yippy dogs near by. I'm looking for a bit more of a challenge? Or maybe that is the wrong way to go about this sitting on the dog thing?
 

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Oh, nice photo.

I sometimes think the bigger challenge for a long down with a dog is when it is boring. When my dogs are at a restaurant there is some chit chat and passing odors and such that can mildly amuse the dog. But try bringing your dog to a town hall meeting! We lived in a small town when our big boy was little and was welcome if he behaved. Everyone was sitting in a chair talking and not much else is going on. The occasional "good boy" and a treat worked for us.
 

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I go to strip malls, downtown (in a relatively small town), and even park us on the side of a busy 4-lane road from time to time. My favorite though is a nearby lake because there are a non-stop variety of people, joggers, skateboarders, bicyclers, kayakers, and dog walkers going by all the time.
 

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Good ideas. Actually our home depot is worse than petsmart... he gets way more attention in there and the workers always give him treats even when I politely say no... including things he is allergic to EEK! They try to sneak it when I'm not looking. One lady that worked there even said "Dogs can't have allergies thats ridiculous!" and then fed my dog one of those fake sausage looking things :eek:
Train your dog not to accept food from strangers.

Should be on the to-do list for a service dog anyways.

It will be harder since you allowed this behavior for so long than if you started him out on the right foot with this as a young pup, but considering his severe allergies, it can save a world of misery.
 

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Train your dog not to accept food from strangers.

Should be on the to-do list for a service dog anyways.

It will be harder since you allowed this behavior for so long than if you started him out on the right foot with this as a young pup, but considering his severe allergies, it can save a world of misery.
I saw there was another thread on this but no one had answered yet. So how did you train your dog not to take food from strangers? Gandalf is really good when we drop something in the kitchen he doesn't take it but waits for "permission", he gives us eye contact and waits until we say it's okay to eat. Same thing if we leave our food on the table he won't touch it but I haven't figured out yet how to stop him from taking from people when they offer it.
 

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We go down to the local pub, its usually got a lot of people and loud noises and Kaiser must lie quietly whilst we have a pint. He gets bored as their isn't much entertainment for him... some treats occasionally keep him in his down.

A more rowdy place we go is the local coffee shop by the beach - loads of dogs and kids... its hard for him there, we try not to stay longer than 30 minutes as that seems to be his limit before he starts getting frustrated and wanting to go play with everyone.
 
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