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When to start potty training? I have always started as soon as pup comes home at 8 weeks, but have read that this may be too early and you should wait for them to have full control of their bladder first, some say 10 weeks while others say 12 to 16 weeks. I am just worried that I will get the puppy into the habit of going inside. But I also worry (protective dog mom here) that since I am now in the city versus rural, there are many more doggy germs about and my worst fear is Parvo. So I would not be opposed to waiting, either. I've read too many conflicting things about this that I have to ask. I do plan to crate train her. TIA :)
 

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Potty training/crate training/house behavior are all tied together and begin at moment one of your lives together.
It is a begin as you mean to continue, no changing the rules once the cards are dealt thing. Clear, fair and consistent expectations.
 

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Perfect, I am of the same opinion but I got nervous since I haven't had a puppy in quite a few years, so I bought a few books and they are all very different in their methods. Thanks!
 

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Perfect, I am of the same opinion but I got nervous since I haven't had a puppy in quite a few years, so I bought a few books and they are all very different in their methods. Thanks!
I will be more then happy to walk you through the basics, several other members here as well. Is your puppy home with you now?
 

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I would be so thankful for that! Thank you for offering.

No, she is not coming home for another two months at least. She will be born any day now :) Fingers crossed!
 

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Is she born yet? I have not forgotten, we like people who are prepared and willing to accept help. We all need it sometimes, even if it's just to vent to someone or talk things out until they make sense.
We will need pictures as well!
 

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Not yet! Currently patiently waiting.... or trying to, anyway. The puppy wait is so difficult, lol. I’ve already got her crate and a bunch of other things on the way. Thank you again for offering, I know we can have very busy lives. I would love the help but understand if that is not possible. ?
 

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I don't mind sleeping with puppies but I have also done the crate by my bed. Puppy crate should be just big enough for the puppy to sleep in comfortably. A soft stuffy to snuggle with is a good idea unless you have a chewer.
I don't generally muck around about crating, it's just business. Puppy goes in and I walk away. I have had a couple that were in danger of hurting themselves, they slept with me while I worked on positive association with the crate.
The following is just a copy/paste from Shadows FB but I will add that I generally put puppies to bed around 11, get up at 3 or 4 for a pee break for the first few days then back to bed until 7ish. I restrict movement by baby gates, some prefer tethering. The short version is that I take the puppies out often enough and watch them closely enough that no accidents happen.
If your puppy messes in the house, you made a mistake.
Puppies do not get left unattended, loose in a house. Crate or eyes on at all times. It shouldn't take weeks to house train a puppy, and you are stressing yourself out allowing it to.
Food and water are restricted at night, morning comes you take the puppy out of it's crate and carry it outside. In your pj's and slippers. Once puppy has relieved itself you praise, praise, praise. Best puppy ever! Then inside, food and water, and coffee. Then back outside. Puppy pees and poops and you praise, praise, praise. Then inside, play for 10 minutes, back outside. This is not rocket science. Eyes on the puppy at all times or it is in it's crate. Don't let it have an accident in the house and pretty soon it will know to go outside.
I do not understand the bell thing? Why complicate the issue.


I also train my dogs for one spot in the yard only. I do this by taking them only to that spot and promptly cleaning up any other areas if an accident occurs.

Keep me posted. I like puppies.
 

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I think Sabis summed it up well. You have to be very diligent and I would add that in addition to praise for the pup relieving herself outside, you can also reinforce with a small piece of good food, which means you have to have them handy, like on her crate. Something like a piece of string cheese would work because it is not a dog treat per se and more of a real food, and I don't think it would spoil if you kept a days worth at a time out unrefridgerated. If you have to run to the fridge every time she might indicate she has to go out, it will become too labor intensive. You can't take a young pup outside too much so that the odds are better she will relieve herself outside. You can also use a command like, "hurry up and pee/poop."
 

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Thanks so much for the information guys. With a spoiled little dog (hairless dog, who was a winter puppy and hates the cold, was the hardest pup to housetrain ever) already, I am going to be very dedicated and proactive with this girl's training. I have a puppy class lined up and have scouted a kennel club near me who will have rally obedience classes beginning again right after she turns 6 months old. Can't wait to try that with her.

Great idea about one specific part of the yard as well as the hurry up command! My spoiled pup will circle, and circle, and circle... :)

No word of puppies yet. Almost crumbling under the anticipation! Lots of photos to come once we finally get her home!
 

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I head North in 8 days and my internet access may get sporadic but you seem to have a good grip on this and if you want any help just ask.
It seems that many members on the forum are happy to help, just fed up with those who will not help themselves.
 

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Enjoy the trip! And thank you. I definitely will post when I have more questions, because I know I will eventually! lol. Certainly willing to go as far as I can possibly go to train this puppy right. I appreciate all the help, very much. :)
 

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I don't mind sleeping with puppies but I have also done the crate by my bed. Puppy crate should be just big enough for the puppy to sleep in comfortably. A soft stuffy to snuggle with is a good idea unless you have a chewer.
I don't generally muck around about crating, it's just business. Puppy goes in and I walk away. I have had a couple that were in danger of hurting themselves, they slept with me while I worked on positive association with the crate.
The following is just a copy/paste from Shadows FB but I will add that I generally put puppies to bed around 11, get up at 3 or 4 for a pee break for the first few days then back to bed until 7ish. I restrict movement by baby gates, some prefer tethering. The short version is that I take the puppies out often enough and watch them closely enough that no accidents happen.
If your puppy messes in the house, you made a mistake.
Puppies do not get left unattended, loose in a house. Crate or eyes on at all times. It shouldn't take weeks to house train a puppy, and you are stressing yourself out allowing it to.
Food and water are restricted at night, morning comes you take the puppy out of it's crate and carry it outside. In your pj's and slippers. Once puppy has relieved itself you praise, praise, praise. Best puppy ever! Then inside, food and water, and coffee. Then back outside. Puppy pees and poops and you praise, praise, praise. Then inside, play for 10 minutes, back outside. This is not rocket science. Eyes on the puppy at all times or it is in it's crate. Don't let it have an accident in the house and pretty soon it will know to go outside.
I do not understand the bell thing? Why complicate the issue.


I also train my dogs for one spot in the yard only. I do this by taking them only to that spot and promptly cleaning up any other areas if an accident occurs.

Keep me posted. I like puppies.
I like the "one spot in the yard only" method however there was a problem with that. For the longest time, mine didn't know how to go anywhere else. It was a pain when we were in beginner's obedience classes and he wouldn't go during our class breaks. He would hold it until I got home and then he'd go. I was all stressed that he'd go in the car. He didn't know how to poop in other places either. Doesn't matter where we walked and how far, he'd hold it until we got back to "his spot" in our front yard. So when he finally started doing his business away from that spot, I was overjoyed. It took a long time though...months.

I'm an extreme case...I slept with my pup on the kitchen floor every night for the 1st four months I had him. I used my previous dog's 2 beds and put them back to back to make a mattress for me. (It's surprisingly comfortable.) I placed these beds right in front of the crate and he had the choice of sleeping in the crate or outside. He chose to sleep half the time in the crate and half the time on the "bed" with me. Why, you ask would I subject myself to this? Because my bedroom is the furthest room from the front door. By the time I walk down the hall, the stairs, down another hall, put on a coat and shoes, he would've peed/pooped already. So I decided to sleep in the kitchen with him...it is close to the front door. Plus, the bedroom has carpet and the kitchen has tiles. It's much easier to clean up tile than carpet. I actually had "practice" doing this 1.5 years ago when I found out my previous dog was dying from cancer. I'd sleep (didn't sleep much, maybe 3 hours a night) with him on the floor. He couldn't walk the stairs anymore and he couldn't control his bowels. So I "slept" with him on the kitchen/family room with him. Didn't sleep much then...there was a lot of cleaning up vomit/poop and crying on my part. Anyway, I wouldn't sleep on the kitchen floor again though. I'm getting older...my own bones are aching.
 

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It can create issues with the dogs going elsewhere. However An adult dog should only relieve itself a couple times a day and you are at the same time teaching a go pee command which is a lifesaver if you are travelling.
All my dogs prefer to wait until we are at their spot however they also know that when I take them out and say go pee I want them to go right here right now.
 

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Timely post! We are bring home a pup in early May and haven't had a puppy around since 2008 so the advice is great!!!!
 
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