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Here is the deal, I was driving down the street and saw two guys out running with a GSD puppy that could not have been more than three or four months old tops! I almost pulled over because I have water in my car, its 96 degrees out and these guys were dressed to run, (not just a jaunt down the road) I'm pretty mad and feel like maybe I should have stopped to tell them their pup was way too young for this kind of thing. I feel badly now, but how old should a pup be before he could run like that? Should I have stopped? I hope the little guy is okay, his poor tongue was hanging out the side of his mouth.....okay I'm kicking myself now. Even if they told me to mind my own stinking business I would have felt better I think........
 

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I wouldn't run with my pups until their over a year old at the youngest, too hard on their joints!
 

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That is what I thought, but I realized if I pulled over I couldnt tell them with any assurances what age they could run the puppy. GRRRRR
 

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If it is 96 degrees, NO puppy/dog should be out on a forced run. No matter HOW old it is. (This is obviously not directed AT you Betsy.
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I run 1/4 mile to 1/2 mile with my 5 month old but we don't do it when its that hot (only when its in the 70s in the morning or at night). My breeder & vet both said running is ok (slow and short... though)
 

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I know Tracy.......I was really upset to see it. Now I really wished I had stopped. I went back out after I posted to see if I could find them... no luck. I wish people would think...I mean how far would you make a toddler walk on his own, let alone make him run??? He was just a baby.
 

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Besides the obvious temperature factor, what sort of surface? I didn't run my GSD on asphalt at all until he hit two. I still don't like for him to run on asphalt, but he and Dh will go rollerblading now and then. Concrete is even harder than asphalt.
 

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I didnt run my previous female until she was about a year. My pup is 3 months old and she runs in the back yard fetching and our daily walks on grass. I am new here and have a question. I see tons of posts with DH in it. What is a DH?
 

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Ok, so one or two years before they can run? Koda runs all over the place, behind the four wheeler and the jeep (we have 130 acres) what exactly is too much? What about jumping? He loves to launch himself into the air to take a stick out of my hand, and to catch a frisbee. I saw a post that mentioned a dog slipped on the floor of it's kennel and tore something. We have tile and linoleum through our whole house, he slips all the time when he's playing inside...now I am worried.
 

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Last weekend we went hiking up in the white mountains. We didnt take our puppies (11 month old and 5 month old) because we knew it would be to much for them. So were on our way down and here comes this young couple with 2 puppies. One is a boxer 4 months old and an 8 week old husky. OMG! I felt so bad for them. The little 8 week old just flopped down on the ground when we stopped to talk to them. We told them that we left our pups at home cuz it was to much for them. They didnt pick up on it cuz they continued on. I wanted to say more to them but I didnt.
I dont really run with my two yet but I will admit to biking in the woods and them following. Lots of stops though.
We do hike frequently with them but its just a walk and they have lot to drink. I cant imagine them just playing around only in the backyard.
 

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Mandy, how old is Koda?
 

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The general rule is that a puppy will do ANYTHING to keep up with you -- whether because he's leashed; because you're encouraging him; because he feels like he has no other option, like on a walk; or because he just LOVES to be with you. So if a puppy is running or on a long hike that you set out certain idea of how much mileage you intend to cover (like most hikers at the beginning of the hike), you're likely doing it wrong.

Dh (dear husband) and I often bring our puppies to areas where we can park at a trail head and there aren't many people around, so they can bounce and play without us going very far. These are pretty close to home so we don't feel like we "wasted" a drive to get there when we end up going home after having only walked what's often a very short distance. Puppy is wiped out. The Big Kids spent most of their time sniffing, doing some critter digging off the trail, and all is good.

As for "what is running?" Running to me is any running that is on a hard surface (concrete, asphalt or hard-packed dirt), or any running that is coerced (like in my first sentence). I aim for springy, bouncy grass. But I do the best I can. My 2 y/o GSD has worn off all my grass in the front yard playing soccer 2-3 times a day for the last 2 years (it WAS springy and grassy!
). My puppy does still run on that surface. But I try to limit it, and I never encourage it (because puppies usually do what we ask them when they're little and we're playing with them). For HER playtime, we go into the back yard, where my GSD has not manage to destroy the grass (yet?).

Jumping. Sigh. My rule is 4-on-the-floor at all times. I sure wish I could enforce that one. I encourage my pup to use the ramp off our deck that we built for my senior. (Not a very elaborate ramp. A 1X12 would work for most puppies.) She uses it about half the time. My GSD uses it about 50% of the time too, which is good (til there's a traffic jam there. Then the senior jumps off the stairs.
). No jumping for frisbee. Either don't play with them, or toss them so low that there is no way that your dog can jump for them. Roll big balls (like soccer balls) as though you would roll a bowling ball; don't toss them.

Don't encourage running around in the house if you have slick floors throughout. If you have a carpeted hallway, play fetch up and down that. Be careful once winter shows up with slippery and icy conditions. Dh and one of my dogs were once chasing each other on an icy parking lot. HE fell and hurt himself, not the dog. It's a dangerous world out there!

The thing is, we can't control everything our dogs do. I know we can't. I can't, that's for sure. My GSD (now 2 y/o) loves to bounce like a dang kangaroo after his soccer balls. He jumps for frisbees that are 20 feet above his head, (if there's a bad toss or the wind catches it). When I toss treats to either him or my senior, they both jump. Why? To get to the treat a split second earlier, even though the treat is heading STRAIGHT for their mouths.


But every time we can prevent our dogs from jumping, that's one less impact on their joints and bones. When puppies are growing, that's one more time that their bodies can continue to grow normally. We watch; we remain vigilant; we avoid making bad decisions; we do the best we can.

 

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My pup will not accompany me on trail rides with my horses until he is over a year old (I work for a trail ride facility). He does go to work with me daily and can run around as much as HE wants to there with the other two dogs, but I will not ever force him to go long distances until I know his joints are ready. I hate when I see people running with puppies but it happens frequently around here too.
 
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