Reading that post again I’m still not sure if this is a separate breed or just a different line. I remember meeting some people from Russia giving lots of to love to Luna when she was a pup small enough to fit in the shopping cart, when I was in home goods store. I was trying on a little red puppy coat on Luna - wondered what they thought about that. These two giant Russian men lit up like light bulbs when they saw Luna it was really cute to see. Their harsh Russian accents quickly turning into cool soothing puppy tones. They wanted me to see their gsds they had in a van -they called them the ultimate shepherds from Russia. I do wonder if they were talking about these dogs though. It’s why I’m blabbering about this. These men stood out like sore thumbs -over 6 feet tall, speaking Russian and looked like they came straight from a movie set filmed in Russia- standing on a Home Goods line. I remember it was the day after Trump was elected - you can really feel all the tension on that Home Goods line that was unusually long and so very quiet lol!