What do y'all think about pinning/alpha roll

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Heagler870

Discussion Starter · Nov 30, 2010

I have heard some people hate it and some people love it, or at least think it's a natural training method. I have never done this physically to my dogs but my pup Riley will submissivly roll on his back when I give him the "You're in trouble look." I used to get on the floor and play with him and that's when he started doing it. It would be when I would love on him and put my face around his neck. That's when he would automatically do it. Now he just does it if I give him a certain look, or when I give him a good ole belly rub! What is your opinion of people who purposfully incorporate "Pinning" or the "Alpha roll" for training?

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Konotashi

· #15 · Dec 6, 2010

Whoever thought of this as a training method is a ding-dong. If you look at wolf behavior in the wild, the dog that is being submissive is not ever being forced. It is always on its own accord. Many people who do this method (that I've seen) force their dog on its back. In my opinion, this just makes for a very unconfident dog.

Ozzy rolls on his back for me and I rub my face in his fluff and give him tummy rubs.

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Konotashi

· #18 · Dec 6, 2010

I think that if you try to force a large dog down like that, someone could get hurt. The only way I could think of getting a big dog down that doesn't want to go down is to knock its legs out from under it, and that would make it land on its side, and that could potentially hurt it. Or you could get hurt for obvious reasons.

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Konotashi

· #20 · Dec 6, 2010

Denali Girl said:
I guess I'm not going to knock it cause I don't know enough about it. I guess wolves do this in the wild or something? That's cool and I guess it would work if I were raising a wolf but I have a GSD so I'll stick to what I know.

But watch their behavior. You will never see a wolf FORCE another on its back. The submissive one always does so on its own.

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