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My puppy has been making this weird gulping noise when he whines or breathes heavy. It sounds like it's coming from the throat. It doesn't happen when he eats, just randomly. He hasn't thrown up and eats and drinks like a horse.

Everything else seems normal. It's just a really weird noise.
Any ideas of why it could be? It's almost like he's sucking in air or something.
 

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Or like he has bubbles in his throat. It's hard to explain. I'm going to see f the vet has any openings tomorrow. Just thought someone might have an idea.
 

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It sounds like this is a puppy? I kinda thought what Mary thought as well. I would have your vet check this out
 

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If he's normal health and vigor of the rest of the litter. Eating and drinking fine, then I'd not worry about it

unless....

you are a 'responsible' breeder and considering using him as a stud. If you are going to neuter/never breed him he's fine. But if you think you are going to breed you need to get a barium test done to assure he doesn't have mega esophagus.

If he does, he should be fine and is hardly afflicted. Problem is he can have a litter of puppies with all so bad they die soon after birth. You don't want to be responsible for all those deaths so would need to know ahead of time if he has the genetics. (and possibly tell YOUR breeder).

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No,
We aren't going to breed him. But I wanted to know if it was something congenital or genetic such as mega E, because then we would have decisions to make as to what we wanted to do, either send back to breeder or if it was something we could manage, I wanted to do so.
We took him to the vet and she has never seen this before.
He eats and drinks normally, plays normally, so we are just going to watch him and see if he grows out of it.
His sternum is very prominent so that might have something to do with it as when he makes the noise the left side of his neck moves funny.
I never indicated i wanted to breed.
It just scared me and I wanted to make sure it wasn't anything serious.
 

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My vet could not diagnose mega E or the underlying condition. After they did a multitude of tests, including exploratory surgery, because they were sure it was a blockage. Which it wasn't) they still did not know what was wrong. By this time my dog was very sick and weak and had advanced pneumonia. After seeing a specialist who confirmed it was mega e, but brought on by other health/genetic issues all my vet said was they had only seen one other case in 40 years. I have changed vets. If I ever have another serious issue with a dog I want it to be diagnosed and treated before the dog declines in health so much that we have to PTS.

You may want to get a second opinion. I was told they didn't know, but that is not good enough when something is obviously wrong.
 

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He only makes the noise when he whines or gets really excited.
He hasn't aspirated or thrown up anything.
Everything he eats and drinks stays down.
 

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Sounds like my puppy may being doing the same thing. Sounds just like a hiccup and I never thought twice about it since she has never thrown up or had any issues eating.
 

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Went back to the vet for his second shots and she said she did some research.
She's thinking it could be either a respiratory obstruction or could be megaE. She is going to do more research on diagnosing puppies with megaE.
When she listened to him today he was whining and just being a puppy, she compared his breathing to "roaring" in horses.
Since he isn't having any real symptoms behind the noise as far as exercise intolerance, aspirating food, etc we are goin back next weekend for chest x rays to see if there is anything obstructing.
She says it could possibly be congenital.
Just wanted to give an update.
We saw a different vet practice last week and she didn't think anything of it so hopefully my vet will figure it out.
 

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If its Mega E, all your vet needs to do is an xray of the throat, it shows up. You do not need barium for an xray. Find a vet that knows about this it will help.

Do you hear it when the puppy runs around?

What you may be hearing is food or water that's in the throat.

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Went back to the vet for his second shots and she said she did some research.
She's thinking it could be either a respiratory obstruction or could be megaE. She is going to do more research on diagnosing puppies with megaE.
When she listened to him today he was whining and just being a puppy, she compared his breathing to "roaring" in horses.
Since he isn't having any real symptoms behind the noise as far as exercise intolerance, aspirating food, etc we are goin back next weekend for chest x rays to see if there is anything obstructing.
She says it could possibly be congenital.
Just wanted to give an update.
We saw a different vet practice last week and she didn't think anything of it so hopefully my vet will figure it out.
If your pup is having this weird gulping symptom, then why did the vet give second round of shots? It is indicted that vaccines should NOT be given at signs of illness, this includes diarrhea itchy skin or any abnormality.

Is this pup getting Comfortis as noted in llombardo's thread? Do you think the vet is going to put that together with this symptom if they are type of vet that would vax. a puppy who is having possible mega E pre-symptoms or maybe laryngeal paralysis or other?

If you are using pesticides in a puppy stop....see if the symptoms stop...and go to a holistic vet that may be able to help undo the damage:)
 

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If its Mega E, all your vet needs to do is an xray of the throat, it shows up. You do not need barium for an xray. Find a vet that knows about this it will help.

Do you hear it when the puppy runs around?

What you may be hearing is food or water that's in the throat.

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Having had 2 dogs w/mega I know you DO need the barium and it's not just about xraying the pups throat.The esophagus goes from the back of the throat to the stomach and mega can show anywhere along that distance.

Though have to say any mega pup that is normal weight and vigor should turn out fine and live to a ripe old age.
 

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The pup isn't getting comfortis that's my older dog jasmine she's almost 4 years old.
I haven't given any medication to him.
I was unaware of the not getting shots thing.
After his meal last night he started reverse sneezing which he has never done.
At this mornings breakfast I think he regurgitated. I walked to the bathroom for a second and came back to him drinking something. It was spit up with whole kibbles in it. I pulled him off quickly.
I never heard him make the throw up noise.
I'm getting nervous it's megaE. My vet is closed today so I'm going to call its thing tomorrow.
 

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Feed upright. If you have a staircase, putting the bowl up 3-4 steps where puppy has to stand on the incline <may> help. I keep my puppy's water bucket like that as I can not manage her water intake and it seems to help.
If it is Mega-E caused by PRAA it can be fixed and time is crucial as the esophagus may stretch more and more.
Get a skilled vet, get an xray, and then research. While it is a serious problem, there are many dogs (as MaggieRoseLee above proves) doing well with MegaE.
 

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DO NOT FREAK OUT IF IT'S MEGA!

And chances are if you just read the internet or even listen to your vet you'll be in a blind panic!!!!!

ACK!!!! :wild:

I've had TWO mega dogs and they did FINE with little or no management from me! The fact about mega (actually it's genetic so important you find out and tell your breeder) is that is can be FATAL to puppies when they are only a week old and still nursing, they can be very poorly and ill once they start on solid food from mom's milk, OR

and you need to hear this...

or, if they are 100% healthy and normal size/vigor as the rest of the litter then YOU have one with the best prognosis of a long, normal healthy life!

Did I tell you I'm on my second mega pup? First one lived to 10 years and died of something unrelated. My Glory B is almost 5. How sick does she look in this video at 75 pounds and just over 24" in height (bigger than her sisters btw in the same litter!).


I just used standard raised feeders for my dogs and keep them quiet for about 15 min or so after eating so the food has the extra time to get into their stomach.

There are TONS of choices, the one pictured will grow with your dog.
Elevated Dog Bowls: Raised Feeders for Dogs | PetSmart



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I can't stress enough, LOOK AT YOUR PUP, and use that to KNOW how badly afflicted they are. Normal health/vigor CLEARLY shows that you've been able to get more then enough food into the stomach for normal healthy growth. So just manage the situation and keep up the good work.

BTW, it's not uncommon for our mega dogs to grow out of the condition entirely at around a year old! So just try to keep a lid on the regurgitation because a biproduct of that can be aspiration pneumonia and that can really mess our pups up. So they die of pneumonia NOT the mega!

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The puppy I am raising is pretty severely affected.... but even that is doable so far with management. As MRL stated... if your pup seems pretty normal, is a good weight, active and otherwise healthy then your prognosis is excellent.
If it is Mega-E always keep in mind and if your dog develops a cough or cold later in life, make sure you get a vet check.
I did have an older dog who died of aspiration pneumonia. I did not know she had been a MegaE pup and when she developed a cough after a dog show the vet though it was just kennel cough. If I had known we could have started treatment much more quickly and aggressively.
 

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My only thing is and this might sound selfish but;
If it is mega, I bought him from a reputable breeder and spent a ton of
Money on him. And including the vet bills that I'm incurring along with the x ray and barium test needed to confirm to let the breeder know I'm looking at most likely 700-1000.
If I were to send him back I have to add shipping. Then I'll wait for another puppy and have to pay the pet sitter longer than I expected.
I was just under the usumption you get what you pay for.
If he has this, te breeder will only take him back and not help with medical expenses.
Kind of makes you wonder about spending all this money to get a reputable dog and en up spending hundreds and possibly thousands to diagnose and manage an illness.
I'm hoping if he does have it, it's a mild case or can be fixed.
But ever since I've had him, we've been to the vet every weekend and he's going again for x rays. It's getting expensive.
I understand "that's what happens when you get a dog" but I expected with going with a reputable breeder, I'd get a healthy dog.
 
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