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Here is video of max recorded today i am very worried for my puppy we go on walks many people ask about max's hind legs he is 5.5 months old now i have noticed scrapping noise from hind toes . Experts please guide as i am first time owner of dog and live in pakistan's small city with limited veterinary clinics and no orthopedic vet

 

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Poor guy. Neither hopefully it will correct itself being a showline it happens a lot with that type of GSD. Having limited resources I would have at least an X-ray to see what the hips look like otherwise monitor him
 

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I brought my pup, Dakota home at about 4 months. He looked exactly like your guy. When we would go for walks, his back legs would hit causing him to stumble at times. He would drag his nails on the ground. When he would run he would "hop" more than take strides. We had x-rays done on his hips and they looked great. I found that over time, and lots and lots of running, playing, hiking, swimming, his back end got stronger and his legs have almost completely straightened themselves out. His problem is 95% better than it was. Hes 13 months now and you wouldn't know he ever had an issue. My thoughts are to start with the x-rays to rule out anything medical.
 

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MashaAllah for your pup same thing breeder told me that it will go away with his age
 

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I brought my pup, Dakota home at about 4 months. He looked exactly like your guy. When we would go for walks, his back legs would hit causing him to stumble at times. He would drag his nails on the ground. When he would run he would "hop" more than take strides. We had x-rays done on his hips and they looked great. I found that over time, and lots and lots of running, playing, hiking, swimming, his back end got stronger and his legs have almost completely straightened themselves out. His problem is 95% better than it was. Hes 13 months now and you wouldn't know he ever had an issue. My thoughts are to start with the x-rays to rule out anything medical.
I have noticed today that when he is tired his wobblyness increases and here in pakistan summer is here with tempreture of 113 Fahrenheit
 

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That's normal. He's just not strong yet. He's very young and hasn't developed the muscle and tendon strength he needs to be more stable. My pup was the same. I don't see anything to be worried about, just a young, clumsy puppy.
 

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Curious to those who mention that their puppy was the same... i’d be interested in seeing an example of a dog whose hock crosses completely over to the other side (pictured), and how its corrected itself in maturity...
This pup looks extreme imo.
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Yikes. The fact that this absolutely horrible confirmation and inability to even walk is normal for show lines terrifies me. What have we done to this gorgeous breed?
 
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My pup was extreme. Confirmation is terrible. I rescued him from the back of a car. My vet calls him the million dollar dog because we were there twice a week for quite some time. Sinus infections, worms... Specialists, vet visits. $$$$$
X-rays of hips elbows and spine. His hips are awesome. He has a vertebra out of line in his lower spine, which I was told might cause a problem with deification. We have, definitely no issues there. He shows no sign of discomfort or pain. Due to a sudden limp, Dakota was diagnosed with elbow dysplasia at 8 months. The recommendation was surgery. 3k -5k I was saving when he stopped hurting. We never had the surgery and He now runs and jumps and is a zoomie nut. After all the money outlay I was going to have to save .. Dakota is now 13 months and runs and plays and has a great temperament dispute all his setbacks. I am worried about his eyesight, but that’s another post.
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Something is wrong when one starts to think that this is normal in the breed. Personally I think it is not normal but hopefully he will improve over time. Try not to over-exercise him. Short sessions several time a day. Try to let him self regulate and look at the signs of being tired. What are the ingredients of his food? Is there a website form your breeder? Have you met the parents? But most of all, don't forget to enjoy your puppy. Whos is the dog he is playing wih?
 

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Something is wrong when one starts to think that this is normal in the breed. Personally I think it is not normal but hopefully he will improve over time. Try not to over-exercise him. Short sessions several time a day. Try to let him self regulate and look at the signs of being tired. What are the ingredients of his food? Is there a website form your breeder? Have you met the parents? But most of all, don't forget to enjoy your puppy. Whos is the dog he is playing wih?
I am feeding him royal canin german shepherd puppy the best choice available in pakistan his parents are show winner many times and they look perfect another dog in video is shelly a gsd bitch puppy belongs to my neighbour's. In exercise max play with shelly in park this is the only exercise max do in a day they play freely in park for an hour
 

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Something is wrong when one starts to think that this is normal in the breed. Personally I think it is not normal but hopefully he will improve over time. Try not to over-exercise him. Short sessions several time a day. Try to let him self regulate and look at the signs of being tired. What are the ingredients of his food? Is there a website form your breeder? Have you met the parents? But most of all, don't forget to enjoy your puppy. Whos is the dog he is playing wih?
Please find attache photos of maxs parent offi vom game time his mother and in other picture finto vom barencke his father
 

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it is sad that the European show lines are becoming so much like the American show lines with extreme angulation!!!! This movement and clumsiness is so common and you see so many youngsters like this at AKC shows!!!! The length of the leg from hock to pastern is extreme, and contributes to the inability to move correctly...it is like the dog is trying to walk on stilts.

As the other posters say, I think this is totally due to the present conformation, not a disease....

Another comment was made about elbows - normally you cannot certify elbows prior to a year....they do not fully develop until then!!! Your pup who the vet pronounced dysplastic at 5 months was just not finished !!!! Any time a vet proclaims dysplasia in hips or elbows that young, I advise a visit to a specialist or a vet who is more experienced in orthopedics before committing to surgery.


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I admit that I couldn't see the video very well. It's too dark for my old eyes. As for saying it was normal, I meant that the awkwardness is normal, and the lack of strength, not the conformation.
 

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I admit that I couldn't see the video very well. It's too dark for my old eyes. As for saying it was normal, I meant that the awkwardness is normal, and the lack of strength, not the conformation.
Will try to post clear video
 

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His parents will give you a good idea what your pup will be like. The food you are feeding will be ok, especially when there are not many options. Avoid supplementing as it will throw off the nutritional balance. Puppy play is good as long as they self regulate both.
 

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I admit that I couldn't see the video very well. It's too dark for my old eyes. As for saying it was normal, I meant that the awkwardness is normal, and the lack of strength, not the conformation.
here is a clear video wobblyness increses when he is tired in park
 
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