well to start with my jasmine will be 11 months old and is a fear barker, still. we have socialized her from the day we got her at 4 months. we really started laying it on to socializing 3-4 times a week 4 months ago. she has gotten better and just graduated basic obidedience and will be starting novice in 2 weeks. if you have read my previous threads you know i have been struggling with this. my trainer has been giving me things to di, but none have which worked for her. they work for th other dogs, but in this case they wont work for her fear barking. the sonic beeper, lime juice or vinigar, work for not jumping up, digging, etc. i know some of you may not agree with squirting lime juic or vinigar in the mouth but it has worked for minor issues. jasmine's fear is major. she doesnt lung or try to attack she just barks and wants to get away. well here is my problem.. i feel up against the wall. i feel like im doing all that i can with her and i feel like im getting nowhere. we go out for socializng trips like i said 3-4 times a week not counting the 5th day for class. we didnt get her during the crucial 8-16 weeks and even though the breeder swears she socializes all of her pups, i find it bs. on her FB pg, she doesnt have a website, she claims the dogs are socialized starting at 7 weeks, are leash trained, housebroken, crate trained, and well socialized with the family i just dont see it. when we went to see them, there were 4 dogs in the backyard, and kennels set up in the back. they were barking and growling. she lets them in and out of the house and they smelled like wet dog. she brought all the paper work out to us and our baby jaz. jasmine was very skinny and afraid. we weighed her about a week or 2 after we got her and she weighed 16lbs. so im sure she was 14 or so lbs when we got her. she hit under the couch for the first 3 weeks. i knew she wouldnt be loving at first but it took a lot longer than expected. she wasnt potty trained nor knew what a bath was despite the breeder telling me she loves water when i asked. i emailed the breeder 3 months ago asking about the lines and what to do about her barking and all she said was you just started socializing now? well, her behavior is to be expected (she mentioned barking and lunging) when you dont properly socialize. after i had told her we have been socializing her since day 1. needless to say, the lady lied, refuses to answer phone calls, emails and when she does, she lies. i know her behavior is partly my fault because we didnt socialize 3-4 times a week for the first 3 months but we made trips 2x a week. i want to know if anything happend to her before we got her and how her parents act. im not getting any feed back and i feel helpless. i am socailizng and training and it doesn't seem like it is enough. is there anything else that i can do? we go to parking lots, the vets office, petsmart, the dog park (occasionally) and class. should i just give up on the breeder ever telling me the truth? could this be genetic?