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i was a little scared when i came on this site the first time. this is my first gsd and i was embarrassed to tell my story for fear of being ridiculed (sp) for not researching and what people refer to as impulse buying. but i hope that my story will encourge those who are lurking or thinking about getting one to do their homework. but obviously if you are on here, you are a step further than i was. i guess you could say my jasmine was an impulse buy. i had never had a purebred dog before and loved the breed. my bf had a gsd in the past but got him when he was older and they lived in the sticks so no need for training socializing etc. so we went to a breeder we found online, a byb. ( diidn't know the difference at the time)she brought all of the paper work out for us, and the puppy. she allowed the dam to come out and meet us, but the sire remained in the backyard. she asked us about where we lived (apartment) and if we ever owned one before( yes and no). she explained the hip/elbow gaurentee, asked if we were going to breed ( no, then marked limited registration) and we paid her $250 and took home our new puppy. i had no idea of socialization trainning etc. boy was i wrong. it never crossed my mind because none of my other dogs needed any extensive training. im one of the idiots everyone hates. even though we took her everywhere it just seemed to be getting worse with her fear. then i came on here and found out a lot of things i wasn't doing and needed to do. how to socialize properly, health, training, etc. i now socialize 3-5 times a week and am currently enrolled in basic obidience. slowly but surely she is getting better. she has had some health issues already nothing major have cost around 500. i am like most novice dog owners who think that as long as you feed, care properly for the dog, and love it and teach basic commands the dog will be fine. i assume thats why many people give up their dogs to shelters or dump them. it is definately time consuming and a struggle. i had no clue about her lines and heritage ( i know a tad bit but have a lot more to learn). over all, i love my baby and i treat her like a child. i wouldn't give her up for anything and try as hard as i can to do everything i can to ensure she is happy and well cared for. moral of the story:
1)ask the potentail breeder all the questions that are on the stickys here
(hips certified, temperment, titles, past puppies, what kind of trainning and socialization etc) i didn't ask about if the parents hips were ofa'd and im scared that she will have hip problems. but you live and learn
2) everyone here has great advice to give. (Some may come off a little strong which at first scared me off) but they are trying to help because they love the breed and want what is best
3)i would reccomend getting a puppy from a reputable breeder,however, there are some people who want a puppy and like me couldn't afford to pay 1000+ for a pup. there are good dogs out there for less. some may not agree and say if you cant afford that, then you cant afford a dog. true. however, jasmine has all the toys, bones, and best food (diamond naturals) that can be provided. when she is sick, she goes to the vet no questions asked. if we have to lack on something else so be it. she comes first. any dog can get sick, no matter how much it costs.
4) ask questions. if your curious, ASK. don't be afraid. no matter how stupid it might seem. i have learned so much here.
5) everyone makes mistakes. it is those who learn from them and try and correct the situation are also good owners in my opinion. no one is perfect.
6) i have found courage to tell my story now. i am not afraid to be ridiculed (sp) because i know that i am doing the best to my ability to care, train, and socialize my pup.
i hope i can help someone with this or reach out to anyone else who bought a puppy the way i did.
 

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Nope, you're not one of those idiots everyone hates. You admit there are things you don't know and are willing to learn. You admit some of your decisions weren't the best and are desiring to make better ones in the future.

The "idiots everyone hates" are the ones who are ignorant and arrogant about it. The ones who are sure they know everything even though this is their first GSD, or even their first dog.
 

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Nope, you're not one of those idiots everyone hates. You admit there are things you don't know and are willing to learn. You admit some of your decisions weren't the best and are desiring to make better ones in the future.

The "idiots everyone hates" are the ones who are ignorant and arrogant about it. The ones who are sure they know everything even though this is their first GSD, or even their first dog.
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Although I do agree that researching should of done before making any big decision I applaud you for not giving up on your dog. Can't hate anyone who tries their hardest to make it work. Don't worry everyone has felt overwhelmed at some point while owning a GSD I'm sure. Thanks for having the courage to write this. :hug:
 

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Well, you saved this puppy from lord knows what, and now she has a loving forever home, with like you said, all the treats and toys her heart could desire. Thats a good pet owner in my book!
 

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Thank you for posting your story. We all live and learn. You are not alone. My husband and I weren't educated in GSDs either. GSD sure do teach their owners a thing or two about proper dog care and ownership. They are a very challenging breed. I too, had no idea what a BYB was. I joined after I got Jamie and yes, she was purchased from a BYB. I look at this way at least one puppy out of that litter got a good forever home. You can't change what you did. It is done you might as well take care of the puppy the best you can and love it. As long as you learn from your mistakes and correct them in the future no one can fault you for that.

The ones that "everyone hates" are the ones that don't want to learn anything and will not take any advice. They just keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Yes, as Emoore said they are arrogant about it as well.

Just know there are other "idiots" as you call yourself and I am one of them too. So you are not alone. :D
 

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While I did my research before our first GSD (hubby had them as a child) I still made the mistake of buying from a pet store. Live and learn! You are doing what I did, taking care of your pup no matter what and learning from your mistakes. I do not fault you for that one bit.

One day you will have the chance to do as I have done and own a GSD from a good breeder and wow will you see the difference. The mistakes you have made now will allow you to help others who want to learn and this pup will teach you a ton.
 

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You are not an idiot. You are willing to listen and learn from solid advice. I applaud you for giving that pup a good home and being willing to accept there may be health problems that you will take care of. Pyrate came from a litter that was confiscated from some crack dealers. The entire litter and two adult dogs were taken to the shelter. The people bailed out of jail and claimed the two adult dogs but left the litter. I got first pick but all the puppies had health problems. Pyrate has a bulging disc in his back, another had a cracked vertebrae. Pyrate and his brother Colt are the only two left alive from that litter and they will be 8 in April. I knew there could be problems but I love him anyway and will care for him until the end. Raina is the first dog I ever bought. She came from Germany, high drive, working lines. My trainer imports K9's to train so he has a partner in Germany that is able to get the good dogs. I'll never be sorry I got her, even though she is a handful to train.
 

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My GSD Sinister is my first GSD.

I did some research on the breed before buying him but I didn't do research on breeders and ending up buying him from a BYB, I dont regret it but I will never buy from a BYB again.

You may have bought your puppy without knowing about the breed first, but now you are willing to learn and you are doing a great job with your puppy.

Congrats to you! :)
 

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I certainly hope you aren't an idiot because if you are so am I. It takes a lot of humility and sincerity to post as you did. Many of us are first-time GSD owners and, like you, when we thought of getting a puppy didn't turn it into a PHD research project.... we just went out and got one. My previous puppies were from the humane society so the move to a purebred was big change and I had no idea about all the special considerations associated with GSDs .... I thought I was just getting another puppy, albeit a 'special' one. Good luck with yours and I know you will benefit a lot from your connection with this Forum.
 

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I dont know what happened, but your not idiot!

Your Jasmine is gorgeous I just checked her pictures! My male is from a BYB ! and I am very happy and pleased with how he turned out! Also my shelter dog RIP was also byb and she was fine just had a weak bladder. Good Luck sounds like you know you stuff now.
 

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I can relate to DS story, I could have written it myself. I have owned lots of dogs over my years but this is my first gsd.

My boy Ace also came from a byb. Not untill I had him did I find this forum, and have read and learned a lot. I too like many others did no research on the breed before I got him.

He is a very good boy and I wouldn't trade him for a million dollars, he has AKC papers and I walked around his parents on the farm. That is not to say that he may have health problems down the road even though the breeder said if any problems should arise he would refund our money, like that would ever happen he had our hearts after one day.

I sometimes feel bad that we supported a byb when I read some of the posts on here, but we love our boy and he is our big baby, at least I know that of the litter he has a loving home.

We never had children and have been married 38 1/2 years so our pets are our babies and our life and we spoil them and love them with all our hearts. :)
 

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DTS, you are so not alone in this. I've had two dogs in my life so far. One was a retired greyhound when I was a teenager. The second was a Keeshond in my early 30's. Other than basic "sit, come, stay" with both, I really did no training at all. Ridiculously, now, I had this idea in my head that there were people who had dogs and people who trained dogs.

I had zero idea of what "socialization" meant other than it involved dogs. Whew! Was THAT ever wrong! :eek:

When we were looking for a dog, and knew we wanted a puppy, I started reading and found this forum, as well as several other sites.

I suddenly learned how little I knew and have been playing catch up ever since. Imo, for a lot of people the lack of knowledge is not stupidity or that we don't care or that we choose not to learn. It's really a case of not knowing because we either never considered it, or in our life we just "had dogs".

What I've learned will make me a better owner, with a healthier dog (due to good food), a happier dog (due to exercise and socialization) and a great companion and part of our family (due to training, both mental and physical).

I've also learned its an awesome responsibility and I mean that in all senses of that word. Haven't had this much fun in a long time!
 

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Wow. I'm with ya! A woman that I know has raised 2 K-9 Police dogs in the past. She hadnt had a GSD for many years and her brother went out and bought her one for her b-day. Her job didnt allow her to spend any time at home with him and in turn he ended up living in the backyard by himself 24/7 for the first 2 years. When I moved into my new home She heard that I was looking for a dog. She told me about Schindler and that he was a really sweet boy and she hated that he was just sitting in the yard with no companionship. So the next thing I knew I was adopting him. I had done very little research on the breed. Now I'm finding out all of this stuff and it's a little overwhelming! I don't want my GSD to just be a "dog". He has amazing potential and I dont want him to get bored. I'm now trying the best I can to train him and keep him happy. Thats all we can do girl!
 

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Thank you for posting!

I am also a first-time GSD owner, and first time dog owner. I purchased Hank from a very reputable breeder, paid a lot of money out of a single mom's budget, and brought him home thinking it would be a breeze. My kids have two German shepherds at their dad's house who I have dog sat and been around several times a week for the last 7 years. They are both well over 100 pounds, and the female is very hyper and did not receive any training. I can handle them any time, any situation, no problem. But home came my pup and I was so overwhelmed that I cried for a week. I honestly thought over and over of returning him to the breeder. But I kept on, just because I know how great those adults are, and I knew that some day that would be mine only better because it's MY pup and I will be the one who trains him. It is still truly a challenge each and every day (we are currently going through teething). :(

The same as you, I also feared posting my "dumb" questions here and getting ridiculed or lectured. But most people have been so helpful and I feel myself opening up and wanting to participate more on the boards. I have nothing insightful to say but I feel like I have a good "support group" here.

Best of luck and keep us updated. :)
 

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thank you so much for all of your replies. it is nice to know i am not alone =]
 

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Great post!!! None of us were born with knowledge about dog ownership ... we gain it thru experience and making mistakes. I got my first dog, a cocker, in 1956 and am still learning about living with dogs and canine behavior. I'd hate to ever get to the point in life where I "know it all".

Just curious ... where are you taking Jasmine for your dog training?
 

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Riley is a GSD/b. collie mix. Obviously he's a BYB type. Zena was adopted at 4 years old and we dont know much about her history except she was never trained, she was neglected, she has hip problems but i wouldnt trade her for the world. She does have ear infections often though. Shelby is american showline BYB. She's beautiful but her temperment is awful in the sense she's a massive chicken. however she's great with kids, very loving and generally a sweetie. She's good with other animals. Enter Shasta. My accidental litter pup some would say she's a BYB pup. She's fabulous. Healthy as a horse, beautiful, good temperment. Sweetie and majorly smart. She impresses me every day with how intelligent she is. I do worry about the possibility of future health problems with her though. I would love to go to a reputable breeder when i'm able to get my next pup but until then.... i'm happy with my punk dogs. They're great dogs and so willing and eager to please. They're a part of my family. I refer to them as my best oops dogs ever! Regardless of where they came from, they're home here.
 
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