Interesting....this sounds a lot like Mike! He was not the least bit biddable, he had his own agenda....that, combined with a large dose of dog aggression made him NOT exactly the competition dog of my dreams. More like the competition dog of my NIGHTMARES. He had no interest in commerce, he had no interest in performing any behavior in exchange for a reward. Made it difficult to do a lot of rewards-based training! Things that had always worked well on other dogs didn't work with him at all.I have a dog that acts dominant yet when push comes to shove, she backs off(fear based?)
She is NOT biddable and is running on her own agenda with a bit of anxiousness mixed in, not balanced. Food rewards only work when she is in her threshold.
She doesn't shut down, but goes into that 'red' zone that Cesar has over exposed.
I've seen it only a few times with her when she was immature, but know there is such a place in a dogs head.
Obedience doesn't work with her. She is not about pleasing anyone whatsoever.
And banging on her just ramps her up. So she is managed to stay within her thresholds and we don't expect what she cannot do. Accept the dog for what it is and not try to make it what it can never be.
Fortunately Mike LOVES people!! if the way he felt about people was anything like the way he feels about random dogs, he wouldn't ever have set foot in any competition ring.I chose to wash Onxy from competition....she has great tracking and herding instincts but I don't think trialing her in either would get us anywhere, she'd try to eat the judge(and the fact that herding venues around here is nil)
She has a good life, but I wasn't going to push her to please 'my' dreams. Instead I got a pup that would/could do what "I" want to do.
Congrats on the success with Mike, I bet you have become an exceptional handler dealing with his quirks! The challenges must have been frustrating, yet highly rewarding.
first point, i think most people here care less about where or how you got yr dog or even yr dog's pedigree - it's all about ok you got this dog and you got this problem, new beginning starts now....no thanks I never want that again and wouldn't wish it on anyone.
I recently looked at a video of Mike doing a Utility run....there's not a lot of precision, but he looks like he's having a blast! That makes it all worth while
:thumbup: Yes and yes, structure gives Jazzy confidence. It's taking a nervous dog and taking all the stress away by telling them exactly what to do while stressed. For Jazzy she runs to me and I fix the problem for her rather then her having to figure it out for herself. She has confidence because I have confidence and she can trust me to protect herI had a timid, soft dog and she thrived on predictable routine (structure) and being told what to do. Decisions freaked her out and she would have these odd behavior meltdowns.
That's Jazzy to a T. She'll work for a smile from me and would literally walk over burning coals if I asked her to. Very eager to please, even when it's pushing her boundaries. She won't ever be more then a pet, but that's where she's comfortable and we're both ok with it.She also worked to please me, not for toys or treats. She never once chased a ball or tugged on a toy. She just wanted to be pumped up verbally and get lots of praise.