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Here's our new weekly discussion topic (compliments of Wisc. Tiger
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What do you consider to be the perfect German Shepherd Dog?

If you could pick every aspect of your GSD, what would that dog look like? What color and coat type would you want? What lines would you go for? What's your ideal height and weight? What would you consider the perfect temperament? What level of drive would you want? What would you prefer as far as socialness/aloofness. Would you prefer that perfect dog to be male or female?

We're talking about your dream dog here, so no names or pictures of existing dogs, please. Discussion only.
 

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Ok I'll go.

I want a dog with my idea of the perfect GSD temperament. To me that means a very biddable dog, I think that biddability has been lost for many working dogs in favor of higher drives. I'd rather see slightly less drive and more biddability. I need a dog I can live with, not just work so that is why I find this trait to be very important. Next is a good balance of socialness and aloofness. No fear, will greet people in a friendly manner but is not glued to every new person. Then drive comes in, I need a good amount of balanced working drives. I want a dog that I can motivate thru play and enjoyment of spending time with me, so pack drive (or whatever you want to call it) is also important. I do not need or want a dog that fights with me over training, dominance, food, toys, or training situations, so a dog that will fight with me over these things is not of use to me. I do tolerate some of it when the dog is learning and young, but an adult dog that continues these behaviors is a dog that I would not keep.

I want a dog that is natually protective in a serious way. I want to see altertness and readiness to defend the property. This is also where biddability comes in -- when I say it's enough then they can calm down and be ok. I also want my dogs temperament to be concerned to a point about where I am, yet without clingyness. I do like a GSD with small independent streak.

Drive level needs to be better than average, but as I've said, balanced. I cannot stand a dog that goes into orbit all the time and can't think. I don't need a dog with so called "over the top" drive, just decent drive that can get us where I want to go in training. Sustained drive is very important, so is physical stamina.

I don't have an ideal with coat color, but I do like the regular coat length. I also like a dog that is on the larger side of the standard.
 

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Yay this should be fun!!

I would want a blue sable female. Regular coat length. She would be drivey enough to work, but also have a shut off switch for down time at home. She would have to be socialiable, because I take my dogs everywhere. Standard height and weight.
 

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Hmmm... I would like a dog with a darker plush coat (I like a lot of black), not TOO huge, and who is strong and agile. Personality-wise, I would love a GSD that will greet people I invite into my home with a sniff and a wag and then go lay down. Maybe it's unfair of me to want this, but I would love to have one who has enough drive and energy to play fetch and enjoy his walks, but when we're in the house, will lie down with a bone to chew and be content without all the pacing and whining and pining after me.
If I leave the room, I'd prefer that he not have to feel like he has to follow me all the time (ie: clinginess is frustrating in a way because I feel guilty when I want time to myself!)
Also he'd be calm and patient with children, and respectful to our cats.
 

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Well, that’s a lot to think about. I guess I’ll answer the easy parts first.

I like the look of the blockier male GSDs best and the darkest colors. I like the look of Blacks, Bi-colors w/mostly black and Black Sables. Of course, I like the working lines or old West German or Czech working lines to be more specific. As for size, I lean toward the standard, a medium size dog. I'm not real keen on large or oversized. Of course, for me it would be a male as far as gender.

Drive, Aloofness, socialness & temperament I really am pretty happy with one of the GSDs I currently own. If I could carbon copy that in another GSD, I would. He is aloof toward strangers but not toward me. He’s not the kind of dog who will climb up on your lap and he prefers to be undisturbed when he’s sleeping (though he will tolerate it). He can be social but as I said not overly affectionate or friendly. He has a higher prey drive. I think his prey drive is part of what makes him so fun to own and have around.

(I'm sure I'm missing some things but I can always ad more later.)
 

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Blanket b/t or Bi color, dark face, eyes. Balanced, no extremes. Stock coat. Female. Medium sized (57 cm, 23 inches or so), 60-70#, strong head, good bone, tight feet. Athletic.

Social, pushy, dominant, very confident dog that is also civil, biddable, hard and could be used for PP if needed. They must also adore kids. I like dogs with a tremendous amount of drive that will settle in the house, can travel with me, stay in hotel rooms, sleep on the bed, a dog with brains. Hard, calm, full grips, a lot of fight, insatiable desire to work, strong hunt drive and natural tracking ability. Exceptional nerves in all situations.

I think that is everything.
 

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I had almost 11 years with her--my first gsd: Massasoit Little Bear. I adopted her at 10 weeks from the Greenfield Humane Society in MA. She was outgoing, a natural alpha, absolutely trustworthy with kids (and very loving), great with puppies and other dogs and cats, protective but not overly so, extremely intelligent (people said she was almost human), loyal, only interested in people she knew, headstrong, brave, a great problem solver and I could take her anywhere with me. She knew what I wanted without my saying a word. She kept me from getting lost in the woods many times and she had the most wonderful sense of humor. She's the reason I got hooked on the breed.

Of course she had all of the typical health problems but her temperament couldn't have been more rock solid.
 

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My ideal is as dark as possible, especially the face. Not huge but well balanced and stocky.Has to be biddable but have strong desire to work and good prey drive. Must not bark at every knock on the door when I am home, I am in control. Must love people and be friendly but know not to bother guests. Must adore kiddies. Have to be willing to lay down quietly by my side or on it's bed when it's quiet time in the house, no begging for play time or acting up. A dog who checks on my whereabouts but doesn't cling or follow from room to room unless needed. I'm sure I've left out many things, but I think the most important points are covered.

And this describes my dog exactly, so I have exactly what I want.
 

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Male
26"
90-100 lbs
Czech Border Patrol lines
Bi-color or very dark sable color
normal coat length, but the denser the better
medium drives
medium activity level
social-- but some degree of suspicion
biddable-- good pack drive
handler-focused, handler-sensitive
Affectionate with me
and a leeeeeettle bit pushy.
 

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We had almost 10 years with her-our first Gsd-Sheba. She was medium height and weight. Black and tan with a normal coat. She had medium drive and activity. She loved people-her sweet eyes would look you in the face for a pet and kind word and then she'd leave you alone-she wasn't pushy. She adored children. We could take her anywhere and never have to worry about how she'd react. Very brave-not much rattled her. She was quite a lady-never slobbered her water all over the kitchen floor-knew enough to stay out of the garden in the spring so her feet wouldn't get muddy! She was biddable with just a touch of stubborness-added a bit of spice to life! Because of her and with her passing, we couldn't live without a GSD in our life. That is her greatest tribute.
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I must be the only one here who would like a long coat. Not too long but on the longer side of fluffy! I like fuzzy ears and butts!

Male, 25"-26". 80-90lb. Red and black coat.

Must be child friendly. Aloof with strangers and other dogs but willing to play. Bright and active but calm indoors. Food motivated may be good as my GSD isn't at all. Must also enjoy belly rubs and give good kisses!
 

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Originally Posted By: Diesel_and_LisaI must be the only one here who would like a long coat. Not too long but on the longer side of fluffy!

Male, 25"-26". 80-90lb. Red and black coat.

Bright and active but calm indoors.


Nope you are not alone. That sounds like my ideal GSD (physically)

Shelleybeanz: I don't think that is unfair of you at all to want a GSD with a strong drive to fetch and walk, but relaxed inside. I have one that fits that description and I love that about him so much
 

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I'd like a dark sable or a very deep red and black...big head, thicker body, a stocky dog. i don't want the back to be roached. I want a dog that's athletic and energetic, over the top is acceptable. I want a GSD who will immediately do anything i say, with no hesitation. i'd also like the dog to be calm and the house, and not drool so much
 

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My perfect GSD.

Physical apparence; large (within the standard) heavy bone, blocky head, dark eye, not extreme rear angle or the popular roach back. Color preference would be black and red, blanket pattern with plush coat. Temperament rock-rock solid, no issues with sound or footing or surroundings. Naturally protective but biddable to handler. Kind to children and elderly. NO NO NO digestive problems or allergy problems, just a really healthy dog. I want a dog I can feed anything to and not have to worry about digestive upset. I don't want to have to deal with any food or enviornmental allergies. I don't mind a dog that challenges me. I will tolerate a bit of stubborness. NO dog aggressive dogs, but if challenged or pushed by another dog will not run and hide or roll over.

I like my females to be more on the doggy side and I will never own a bitchy looking male.

If I could get everything else, I wouldn't be so picky about the color.

Val

PS, I have 4 in the house and if I took bits and pieces from all of them I might get my perfect dog. But I am sure there would still be room for improvement.
 

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sounds almost like my ideal as well. hate the roach back!

I DO NOT like a GSD with a curly tail - I like a low tail set - "sword Tail"

oh and a nice ear set --- not too big set high on thier head

must be a male dog for sure
two months ago I put the love of my life down - he was the perfect GSD
 

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To me the perfect GSD is one who is willing to give up its life for its pack if necessary. A hero/heroine dog.

Colors, looks, gender, size, even temperament are irrelevant if it has the above quality.
 

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My perfect G.S.Ds. Mine naturally .

No extremes of any feature. Moderation in everything, no over angulations or extremes in temperament. I have a preference for the SABLE of our breed standard, but colour to me is secondary.

I have to be able to live with a dog, I don't like [for myself or lifestyle] the 'high drive dog' that seems to be talked about. The G.S.D. to me should be aloof, self assured and calm, protective if needed without the in your face presence.

Cheers,
Dianne
 
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