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Hi ya'll.

Just wondering what you all have for a shot schedule.

Also when do you give their first Rabies?

The American vet here won't do it till they are over 16 weeks while the German vet does it when they get their second set of shots(basicly under 16 weeks).
 

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Good question.

My pups were vaccinated at 7wks for DHPP.
At 12 wks, the vet wanted the DHPPC done for both of them but I requested the DHPP.
We are going to go have their next set of shots done at 16wks, and then wait 2 weeks to have the rabies (i'm sure the vet will contest this, as in our state Dogs are meant to have rabies done at 16 wks, but I will not have them done at the same time)
 

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I've always waited till at least 18 weeks and always at least two weeks after any other shot.

My vet now won't give a rabies shot within two weeks of another.
 

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Hmmm The rabies is a combined shot with the Germans. The Americans are two separate shots.

And what is DHPPC/DHPP? I am not up to speed with all the lingo.

Is there a reason why ya'll don't have them at the same time?
 

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I dont believe in vaccinations for myself or my dogs. I only have my dogs vaccinated for rabies because it is required by law. If you are interested in more info on the <u>dangers of vaccinations </u>please PM me. I am at work on my lunch and dont have time to respond right now. Thanks Cindy
 

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D-Distemper
H=Hepatitis. Infectious Canine Hepatitis
L=Leptospirosis
P=Parainfluenza.
P=Parvo
C=Corona.

Link for Disease Descriptions

The schedule that I've tended to follow is

8 weeks (if the breeder didn't do it at 6 weeks) DHPP(C)
10-12 weeks DHPP(C)
12-14 weeks DHPP(C)
14-16 weeks Rabies

In the United States, depending where you live, the DHPP is sometimes a combined shot; sometimes, you get a DHPPC shot as the combined shot.

Lepto and Corona aren't usually vaccinated against unless you live in areas that tend to have high incidence of this (or if you travel into areas that do, like Mexico). They tend not to be lethal if your dog gets sick with them, so more and more vets opt not to vaccinate for them. Your vet will (should?) know if you live in a high risk area.

My vet strongly prefers not to give the rabies shot until 4 months old, and like TJ's vet, waits 2 weeks between sets of shots.

As for not giving vaccines at all, that's personal preference, but if you've ever had a dog or puppy contract parvo or distemper as I have (mine contracted it in the county animal shelter), you might not think it's such a great position to take. Yes vaccines have their risks, and that's why we don't vaccinate for diseases like corona or lepto unless necessary.

But parvo and distemper are still often fatal, particularly for puppies. By not vaccinating your dogs, you're assuming the rest of us are vaccinating our dogs. I'm not willing to put my dogs' lives into the hands of complete strangers. Just my preference, of course.
 

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I believe in vaccinations... I've seen the "dangers" as it is a big debate with mom's whether to vaccinate their children, space out the vaccinations more or not vaccinate at all. I also know the dangers of not vaccinating.

Plus if I want to bring my dogs back to the states they HAVE to be vaccinated. I just don't know as much info on vaccinations for dogs as I do humans.

Does the DHPPC last only 1 year? Or is that one that is in the longer rage for needing a boster? We may be moving to Texas end of next year.
 

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Originally Posted By: KCandMaceHmmm The rabies is a combined shot with the Germans. The Americans are two separate shots.

And what is DHPPC/DHPP? I am not up to speed with all the lingo.

Is there a reason why ya'll don't have them at the same time?
Yes, KCandMace, there are 2 very important reasons why you should not combine vaccinations -- 1) it increases the likelihood of an adverse reaction, and 2) it increases the likelihood that the vaccine components will interfer with each other and neutralize or negate the immunological response.

Dr. Ronald Schultz of the University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine believes that the rabies shot, because it is the most potent of all veterinary vaccines and the one most likely to cause adverse reactions, should never be given with other vaccines.

<u> Combination Vaccines, Multiple Shots</u>--on Page 16 of the 2003 AAHA Guidelines under Immunological Factors Determining Vaccine Safety, it states that: "Although increasing the number of components in a vaccine may be more convenient for the practitioner or owner, the likelihood for adverse effects may increase. Also, interference can occur among the components. Care must be taken not to administer a product containing too many vaccines simultaneously if adverse events are to be avoided and optimal immune responses are sought. "

Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm

What Everyone Needs to Know about Canine Vaccines, Dr. Ronald Schultz http://www.puliclub.org/CHF/AKC2007Conf/...%20Vaccines.htm

World Small Animal Veterinary Association 2007 Vaccine Guidelines http://www.wsava.org/SAC.htm Scroll down to Vaccine Guidelines 2007 (PDF)

The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are accessible online at http://www.leerburg.com/special_report.htm .

The 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are downloadable in PDF format at http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf .

Veterinarian, Dr. Robert Rogers,has an excellent presentation on veterinary vaccines at http://www.newvaccinationprotocols.com/

October 1, 2002 DVM Newsletter article entitled, AVMA, AAHA to Release Vaccine Positions, http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=35171

July 1, 2003 DVM Newsletter article entitled, What Do We Tell Our Clients?, Developing thorough plan to educate staff on changing vaccine protocols essential for maintaining solid relationships with clients and ensuring quality care http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=61696

July 1, 2003, DVM Newsletter article, Developing Common Sense Strategies for Fiscal Responsibility: Using an interactive template to plan service protocol changes http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=61694

Animal Wellness Magazine Article Vol. 8 Issue 6, How Often Does he REALLY Need A Rabies Shot Animal Wellness Magazine - devoted to natural health in animals

The Rabies Challenge Animal Wise Radio Interview
Listen to Animal Wise (scroll down to The Rabies Challenge 12/9/07)

The Vaccine Challenge Animal Talk Naturally Online Radio Show » The Vaccine Challenge - Show #91

US Declared Canine-Rabies Free -- CDC Announces at Inaugural World Rabies Day Symposium CDC Press Release - September 7, 2007

Rabies Prevention -- United States, 1991 Recommendations of the Immunization Practices Advisory Committee (ACIP), Center for Disease Control's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly March 22, 1991 / 40(RR03);1-19 http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00041987.htm "A fully vaccinated dog or cat is unlikely to become infected with rabies, although rare cases have been reported (48). In a nationwide study of rabies among dogs and cats in 1988, only one dog and two cats that were vaccinated contracted rabies (49). All three of these animals had received only single doses of vaccine; no documented vaccine failures occurred among dogs or cats that had received two vaccinations. "
 
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