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I was wondering what kind of salmon oil you give your dog. I use grizzly but it is on the expensive side so I am looking for a good alternative.
 

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Not sure if this is the right spot to post so please feel free to move.

I was wondering what kind of salmon oil you give your dog. I use grizzly but it is on the expensive side so I am looking for a good alternative.
Why are you giving it? if you are using a good food the 3-6-9 should be balanced just right and you don't wanna mess with that over a long period of time.

If you are using it for skin and coat you might wanna try natural lard.
 

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i use organic flax seed oil, fresh coconut oil,
100% extra virgin oilive oil. today i'm going
to buy salmon oil from Vital Choice. the oils
are expensive but i want to use the best.
 

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i don't know this for a fact but i think feeding
a dog pig fat might be bad for it.

Why are you giving it? if you are using a good food the 3-6-9 should be balanced just right and you don't wanna mess with that over a long period of time.

If you are using it for skin and coat you might wanna try natural lard.
 

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I use it for skin to help in the winter as it gets dry in here. I feed Acana and raw so they get good food.
 

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i don't know this for a fact but i think feeding
a dog pig fat might be bad for it.
Why would pig fat be bad for a dog? That is silly. Pig fat would be the choice of many nutritionists but believe it or not chicken fat is used because the supply is so large, its really cheap and its easy to get from the same suppliers of chicken and chicken meal. It also is easy to spray.

If you look at Abady, that company uses 6 sources of fat.

There are so many myths about lard. Lard is a great fat for dogs, very digestible, very balanced and very tasty. You really wanna render it yourself or buy a natural product from a farmers market. Coconut oil is really good for skin and coat as well. You can also just ask the butcher to save fatty pork trimmings for you.

If you feeding something as pricey as Acana and raw you shouldn't have to spend even more money on salmon oil. I think you are just wasting your money.

Menhaden oil is better if you can find it retail. Very pure stuff. Those fish while disgusting are very clean.
 

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So opinions would be if your feeding Orijen there would be no reason to supplement say Grizzly oil, vitamin E, vitamin C, because it is all in the kibble.

Of course if there is dry skin or such then you would try something but all in all no extra supplementation is needed?
 

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There is not enough in a kibble, IMO. I would still supplement, especially in the winter months.
 

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I just go to Walmart/Cosco and get the big bottles of Fish oil/Omega fat capsules. Figure it's good enough for me, it's good enough for my girls.
 

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So opinions would be if your feeding Orijen there would be no reason to supplement say Grizzly oil, vitamin E, vitamin C, because it is all in the kibble.

Of course if there is dry skin or such then you would try something but all in all no extra supplementation is needed?

If you are going to those lengths you should make your own food. My personal opinion is that people waste money on supplements and likewise waste money on foods like Orijen. I won't use any feed with less than 20% fat. 16% is too low. There is solid evidence that extra O'3 are helpful for inflammation but very little evidence it helps skin and coat.

If you are not getting the results you want on Orijen stop spending the money on it.

The bottom line is that you don't wanna play chemist with supplements, especially fats.

If you wanna add a prepared supplement like Nupro, Impact or K9 Show Stopper than its just a money issue. Those are all well made and proven products.

If your dog suffers from serious dry skin or dull coat then put the dog on Abady M&S.

I don't understand why anyone would spend so much on a kibble like Orijen and then add stuff willy-nilly. If the stuff is so great why do you have to add anything?
 

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That was my question. Do I have to add anything???

QUOTE..If you are not getting the results you want on Orijen stop spending the money on it.

I feel Orijen is one of the best kibble made but that doesn't mean you can't supplement for better health.

QUOTE..The bottom line is that you don't wanna play chemist with supplements, especially fats.

True thats why the question was raised whether or not additional supplements are needed or not.

QUOTE..If you wanna add a prepared supplement like Nupro, Impact or K9 Show Stopper than its just a money issue. Those are all well made and proven products.

But why would we add these products why wouldn't we just feed the correct food as you mentioned above if Orijen is not giving us the results we are looking for why buy it.

QUOTE If your dog suffers from serious dry skin or dull coat then put the dog on Abady M&S.

QUOTE..I don't understand why anyone would spend so much on a kibble like Orijen and then add stuff willy-nilly. If the stuff is so great why do you have to add anything?

I think the point here was " whats actually in our kibble and what could still be supplemented to our dogs to benefit their health and not over do it". At least that was idea. I eat good but supplements added are beneficial so are there beneficial supplements for our dogs even if we are feeding them a quality kibble.

I understand people have opinions and paying $50.00- $70.00 a bag for dog should be enough but then you have others that would be happy to add additional foods or supplements if it will benefit the health of our best friends. I can't knock either thought process.
 

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That was my question. Do I have to add anything???

QUOTE..If you are not getting the results you want on Orijen stop spending the money on it.

I feel Orijen is one of the best kibble made but that doesn't mean you can't supplement for better health.

QUOTE..The bottom line is that you don't wanna play chemist with supplements, especially fats.

True thats why the question was raised whether or not additional supplements are needed or not.

QUOTE..If you wanna add a prepared supplement like Nupro, Impact or K9 Show Stopper than its just a money issue. Those are all well made and proven products.

But why would we add these products why wouldn't we just feed the correct food as you mentioned above if Orijen is not giving us the results we are looking for why buy it.

QUOTE If your dog suffers from serious dry skin or dull coat then put the dog on Abady M&S.

QUOTE..I don't understand why anyone would spend so much on a kibble like Orijen and then add stuff willy-nilly. If the stuff is so great why do you have to add anything?

I think the point here was " whats actually in our kibble and what could still be supplemented to our dogs to benefit their health and not over do it". At least that was idea. I eat good but supplements added are beneficial so are there beneficial supplements for our dogs even if we are feeding them a quality kibble.

I understand people have opinions and paying $50.00- $70.00 a bag for dog should be enough but then you have others that would be happy to add additional foods or supplements if it will benefit the health of our best friends. I can't knock either thought process.
I was not recommending Nupro, Impact or K9 my point was that you could do no harm because they are balanced.

Adding supplements to even mid-grade foods is even a waste of money.

It makes people feel good I suppose but there is very little benefit for 99% of the dogs out there.

The statement that Orijen is the best food on the market is simply not true, not true by a long shot. It is nothing more than USA Chicken Meal and potatoes for twice the price.
 

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I order the fish oil from vitacost.com. I don't buy the salmon oil. It's a combination of fish oil. I look for the percentage of O3's in it rather than buying a specific fish. I also feed mackerel and sardines.
 

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I use NutriVet brand salmon oil I get from Tractor Supply.
 

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Well then perhaps salmon oil is not what I need. Our house is very dry in the winter even with running humidifiers. The dogs scratch and I do not care what I feed them, we all have dry skin here. So maybe I should be using a coat/skin spray instead of supplements? I am open to suggestions.
 

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fish oil is not going to hurt anything. O3's help with arthritis, vision, a slew of things so it can only be a benefit.

How often do you bathe them? I use an emu oil shampoo that puts the essential oils back in their skin that an average shampoo will strip out.

What other supplements do you give? Are they just scratching? Is their skin flaking?

Just a side note - when i was researching the O3's for a dog with cancer, I think I read that the O6 is what helps the skin not the O3 that is in fish oil. I'll have to look that up again.
 

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The itching has not really started yet but I want to get a jump on it. If it follows the usual progression then it is dry flaky skin. Perhaps the raw will help this some but time will tell on that.

They only get bathed every few months and not much in the cold of winter. I used to use emu shampoo and a spray that worked wonders but I can no longer find the stuff.
 

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Here's an article on dry skin and fish oil

Dog Dry Skin Treatment with Fish Oil

Not sure the intent of the site but it gives a dosage of fish oil for dry skin.

I'll PM you the info for the business I buy the emu oil shampoo from. I don't know if they will ship to you but it's worth a try.
 

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whether i am feeding raw or kibble such as orijen, kimba gets dry skin in the winter and gets itchy.

i use grizzly salmon oil and it really helps prevent this.
 
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