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Have a 4 month old puppy . He is amazing at recall and every other thing off the leash when no other dogs around . but the minute he sees another dog we could be 300 metres away across the park he is gone before I can get to him .most of the other dog owners a really good and stop and wait for me to catch up. But a couple of times they just carry on walking and my dog follows. one incident he just carried on walking out of the park and onto the main road with my dog following him obviously my fault but he could have waited till I caught up. Any tricks i can do? . I no he is only young .
 

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Trick number one (from me) stop going to the "Dog Park." As I've seen "online" dogs that routinely get to run around playing with a pack of dogs get to be like :



It's what I've observed online, with "some" Dog Park dogs. In anycase "Dog Park" warning and other stuff can be found here:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/5296377-post8.html

If your dog is good with other dogs now, I let it go at that and keep a long line on the dog until his recall is solid! You can start to train "The Place Command" and call the dog to you upon release.

Fearful, Anxious or Flat Crazy "The Place CommanD - Boxer Forum : Boxer Breed Dog Forums

Once trained ... you can start to use "Place" with distractions to proof your dog. "Outside the confines of a "Dog Park would be a good place to "proof" your dog. :)

In the meantime ... Down/Stay is also a very good emergency back up plan ... looks like this:

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Thanks for your reply . He is good with other dogs . I have two places where I mainly walk him one is the dog park which basically I use for socialisation with other dogs the other place is farm lands and fields where you dont coming to contact to other dogs. So u are saying miss the dog parks out ? .
 

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Trick number one (from me) stop going to the "Dog Park." As I've seen "online" dogs that routinely get to run around playing with a pack of dogs get to be like :



It's what I've observed online, with "some" Dog Park dogs. In anycase "Dog Park" warning and other stuff can be found here:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/5296377-post8.html

If your dog is good with other dogs now, I let it go at that and keep a long line on the dog until his recall is solid! You can start to train "The Place Command" and call the dog to you upon release.

Fearful, Anxious or Flat Crazy "The Place CommanD - Boxer Forum : Boxer Breed Dog Forums

Once trained ... you can start to use "Place" with distractions to proof your dog. "Outside the confines of a "Dog Park would be a good place to "proof" your dog. :)

In the meantime ... Down/Stay is also a very good emergency back up plan ... looks like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaVvwbT7iYw

Welcome aboard and ask questions. :)
Where did OP say he was taking his dog to a dog park?
 

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Sorry what do u class is a dog park .im From england . A park over here is a bit of green grass playground for kids and woods. . What just happends to have a few dogs in . Are u saying a dog park is just a place for dogs ? Sorry never heard of a dog park
 

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A dog park is a park for dogs to exercise and play off-leash in a controlled environment under the supervision of their owners.

They don't have dog parks in England? Interesting.
 

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At around 4-5 months the puppy with great recall will start testing you. Little puppies have a natural tendency to follow and humans tend to think they have the best trained puppy ever when actually it is their natural tendency when they are little. That will go away for awhile and you will need to up the training. Put your dog on a leash so he can learn what he needs to without learning that he can run faster than you and without getting into trouble. He is just starting to mature.

I had a co-worker tell me how great her puppy was, that he stuck with her and was so smart, yadayada. He turned 5 months old and ran and was hit my a car and killed. Not a great story. But I think this is not that uncommon.
 

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They might have one or two never heard of them tho . Sound like **** . All parks dogs can be off a lease . As long as owner is in conrtol .


Sounds about right he was really good now he has hit 4 months its like he testing me how far he can go .
 

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A dog park is a park for dogs to exercise and play off-leash in a controlled environment under the supervision of their owners.

They don't have dog parks in England? Interesting.
"Dog Park," "Park with dogs" ... really does not matter. The Dog sees other dogs and is gone. That's the bottom line and it needs to stop. ... for "me" I would not care why??

I find it much easier to train my dogs, without other dogs interfering in the process, regardless of where those dogs are found.

The "dog across the street" means nothing to them ... one less "distraction" for me to deal with. :)
 

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You can't depend on a 4 mo old puppy to have 100% recall. Best way to prevent him running away is to not give him the opportunity to do so - keep him on a leash or long line if there is a possiblity of him being tempted to take off and investigate or visit
 

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@rich6115

I think what "Chip18" is trying to say that you should teach your dog sit and stay command first before exposing him to the other dogs. Whether those dogs are in dog parks or other places where dogs are present.

I understand and agree with "Chip18" it is easier to train your dogs without any distractions. Once they are fully trained then you can expose them to challenging environments.

In your Case rich6115 you first teach your dog sit and stay command and once your dog fully obeys you. You can test him by exposing to a challenging situation like dog parks or other places where dogs are around.
 

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You can't depend on a 4 mo old puppy to have 100% recall. Best way to prevent him running away is to not give him the opportunity to do so - keep him on a leash or long line if there is a possiblity of him being tempted to take off and investigate or visit
Honestly ... the part in bold! Don't give them the opportunity and stamp it down when you see it (something wrong) dog's may be tougher but puppy's "verbal marker's" works for me.

If I still had my "baby girl" Struddell we could have collaborated on a book ..."The Art of NO!" :p
 

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@rich6115

I think what "Chip18" is trying to say that you should teach your dog sit and stay command first before exposing him to the other dogs. Whether those dogs are in dog parks or other places where dogs are present.

I understand and agree with "Chip18" it is easier to train your dogs without any distractions. Once they are fully trained then you can expose them to challenging environments.

In your Case rich6115 you first teach your dog sit and stay command and once your dog fully obeys you. You can test him by exposing to a challenging situation like dog parks or other places where dogs are around.
Well not "exactly" ... but close enough. :)
 

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Sorry what do u class is a dog park .im From england . A park over here is a bit of green grass playground for kids and woods. . What just happens to have a few dogs in . Are u saying a dog park is just a place for dogs ? Sorry never heard of a dog park
Really??? Yes over here, we have designated areas for dogs to run "Hog Wild" in fenced in enclosures.

The "issue" is when ... some "people" bring in dogs that should clearly not be there!

They ought to post this at "Dog Parks" :
Three Dogs Who Shouldn?t Be at the Dog Park or Daycare | Robin Bennett

But by and large the people that tend to have problem dogs ... tend to have "issues" with "reading comprehension" in my view. :)

The pack running and won't recall ... just something I've noted from lots of "Dog Park" owners, nothing I've read ... to be accurate.
 

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@rich6115

I think what "Chip18" is trying to say that you should teach your dog sit and stay command first before exposing him to the other dogs. Whether those dogs are in dog parks or other places where dogs are present.

I understand and agree with "Chip18" it is easier to train your dogs without any distractions. Once they are fully trained then you can expose them to challenging environments.

In your Case rich6115 you first teach your dog sit and stay command and once your dog fully obeys you. You can test him by exposing to a challenging situation like dog parks or other places where dogs are around.
But ... to be brief (not a trait I'm good at)

"Down" is a stronger command than "Sit." She did it did not like it ... for a while it meant ... playtime is over! Observations from "Struddell." :p
 

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"Dog Park," "Park with dogs" ... really does not matter. The Dog sees other dogs and is gone. That's the bottom line and it needs to stop. ... for "me" I would not care why??

I find it much easier to train my dogs, without other dogs interfering in the process, regardless of where those dogs are found.

The "dog across the street" means nothing to them ... one less "distraction" for me to deal with. :)
How could it not matter? One is fenced in and supervised, the other is not, therefore a dog can't see other dogs and be gone in a dog park. There is no where to go. If you don't care, then why are you making a point to tell OP not to go to dog parks?

Dogs parks aren't for training, although some people use them for such, so there would be no distraction to make a point to not go.
 

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He's not testing you. That's the wrong way to look at it. Your puppy is not as dependent on you, is becoming more confident. Good, but, could be dangerous. Don't expect a perfect recall out of a 4 month old puppy, especially around distractions. The dog is not testing, he is not trained. Before he was like a little barely walking child hanging on your skirts. Now he is like a little 4 year old getting ready to dive into the pen with the gorilla.

Don't blame this on the puppy. The problem is not in the puppy. The puppy is normal. The problem is that we are expecting more from a puppy than we have a right to expect. CAN someone train a pup this age to 100% recall? Maybe. This would take daily work, with proper timing, motivation, reward, correction (should you correct a baby on recall), adding distraction, various locations, etc, etc, etc.

It doesn't sound like you have done all this. It sounds like you had a relatively insecure puppy who was finding his confidence by being close to his important person -- that is what he should do. Now he is a little more confident and a little more driven by his other natural insticts and drives.

He isn't thinking, "well, he can't make me come if I run fast" or "lets see what happens if I just don't pay attention to him this time." No! He is being a normal puppy and he is not ready to be off lead where you don't have control over him.
 

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Aww heck no need to rehash. This dog is older than a puppy lots of work put in on recall by the owner and still had problems! It's a good thread and lots of information, before it went all crazy and stuff ..."we" tend to do that a lot here. :eek:

But ... learn from others:

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/how-do-i-teach-my-dog/645001-sudden-reaction-100%recall.html
Rehash is blaming dog parks for all the woes of dog ownership, even if the dog does not go to dog parks.

Many people successfully use and enjoy dog parks on a routine basis. The number of dog parks is an ever increasing number. If they were so hideous they would be fading into extinction, not the opposite.
 
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