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Placing here as I'm interested in this from the breeders point of view.
Do you register your pups before placing them in homes? If yes, which registry(s) do you use(AKC, breed/sport specific, etc.)? Do you reg. them(if done before placing in homes) to ensure it's done in your kennel name or for other reasons? Do you put any ID info(m-chips, tats) in your name, if used? Why or why not?

I was just looking at some pups(not GSD) & they were all named(using the breeders kennel name) & reg. with their respecting registry. Wasn't sure if this was a common practice or not.
 

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With AKC, I prefer to register them myself, versus just send them home with the application. I find many pet owners don't bother, so I like to see it actually get done. Yes, I always want to make sure each pups gets the agreed upon name.

My last litter I sent them all the applications as I was late getting everything processed due to the sire being a recent import and didn't want to hold up the delay any longer.

Sometimes I also register the litter with USA/SV, depending on the interest of the puppy owners and if I am keeping one back for myself. If most are going to pet, or AKC venue homes...I usually don't bother as it is useless for them. It is VERY expensive, so I only do that if a few of the pups are indeed going into schutzhund homes.
 

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oh, forgot...yes, I put down the tattoo number or microchip number on the application....I also send them home with instructions on where to register the microchip themselves.
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Yeah, I've been going back and forth on this myself. I am thinking I will register them myself just to be sure that they get registered properly, i.e. kennel name, full reg, limited reg.
 

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I tatoo the pups and register the whole litter at once on limited, even if I am keeping something, put tatoo numbers on the applications. I haven't microchipped pups, though. I make sure the pups are registered, with the correct names and hopefully if they get transferred then they are traceable.

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When you(breeder) reg. the pups do you name them yourself or do you let the "owner" pick a name out?
I've always reg. my pups after getting them, so naming was left soley up to me. Just wondering how it works if the breeder reg. the pups themself.........

rokanhaus, what is the benifit to reg. pups with USA/SV & not just with the AKC? Are they unable to compete in "working" events if not reg. with the USA/SV?
 

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I have a name list, and buyer and I decide on a name together - I turned down a request for Browns Beautiful Bella LOL LOL and I declined a home one time as I was aghast at a proposed name (I thought it would fit a French poodle - not a GSD!!!) - of course, that was only the tip of the iceberg! However, pups are tatooed in alpha-numeric order, and sometimes puppy placements are not in place at time of tatooing - so I never *promise* a name....this is fully described in the contract - as per the AKC rules. Most of the pups are called by their registered name actually - very few people call them something else.

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It's in the breeders best interest to register the litter before they go home... one of the best known dogs I produced the purchaser omitted my kennel name... and when advertising the dog and her progeny only lists that they are the owner/handler. AKC won't get involved in a dispute, even it there's a contractual agreement regarding the name, so to send the pup off with papers completed is a wise precaution.
 

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We always register with AKC and always follow the German naming convention of alphabet litters and our kennel name at the end. Usually we select the dog's registered name, though on occasion customers have gotten some input on what the registered name was, provided if followed the A/B/C/D vom Wildhaus naming pattern.

In the past we sent people home with the applications, not actual registration certificates. But now that AKC has changed their policy and will allow owners to change the dog's name at a later date because they want to, we will be doing things differently moving forward because one of the few exceptions to this policy is in the case of the breeder being the one to initially name and register the dog. So to make sure the dog is named properly and prevent the possibility of someone changing a dog's name later, as well as to ensure that the dog gets registered and no changes are made to type of registration (we always do limited), we will be doing all of the individual registrations ourselves from here on out.
 

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I'm not a breeder, but my breeder let us pick the registered names as long as they use the right letter (and I'm assuming were not outrageous). Nikon is a "B" litter so his registered name is Alta-Tollhaus Bono. Our breeder puts her kennel name in front. So his sibs are Alta-Tollhaus Bailey, Billie, Bali, Baby Duke, etc. Some of them like mine have a different call name. I was given the registration app for Nikon well after I picked him up, but that's b/c the sire is not AKC registered (he is in Germany) and it took forever to get the right papers signed in Germany and then for the AKC to process everything. Nikon was already showing in the UKC with a TL number before his AKC registration finally went through.
 

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If the puppy is spoken for before they are tattoo'ed and registered, I let them pick the official name. If they are too late, then I name them.

In regards to the question asked earlier regarding USA/SV registration, yes, a dog must be registered with USA to compete in USA events. The USA/SV registration saves a step for the owners with that intention, but otherwise it is just "decoration" as AKC is the only real registration recognized worldwide for puppies born in this country.
 

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They can compete without registration until they are 12 months, I believe. Nikon's in the Sieger show next month and he's not USA reg'd yet (but I am a USA member).
 

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Are you saying if the breeder registers the pup, the owner can not change the registered name? I know the buyer can "call" their dog by any name - but now they can actually change the registered name too if they are the one who registers it?

Could a clause in the purchasing contract prevent that?

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AKC does now allow name changes if the dog has not been shown/trialed or bred.
I think some breeders are including a clause in their guarantee that negates the guarantee if the dog's name is changed.
 

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Originally Posted By: DocChris

Are you saying if the breeder registers the pup, the owner can not change the registered name? I know the buyer can "call" their dog by any name - but now they can actually change the registered name too if they are the one who registers it?
That is correct. This is a new policy for AKC, undoubtedly intended as another way for them to make $$$. Oh, you don't like your dog's registered name? Pay us and we'll change it!

They will not allow a name change if the dog has been bred and has progeny registered with AKC, or has been shown in AKC conformation or has AKC titles. But of course they don't recognize titles from other organizations (SchH, UKC, Ring, etc...)

They also will not allow a name change if the breeder was the one to originally register the dog.





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Could a clause in the purchasing contract prevent that?
AKC would not honor any such clause in a contract. The owner might... or might not. It may or may not hold up in a court of law, but I don't know too many breeders with a few thousand dollars to throw away on legal fees to fight a dog's name change.

So the safest bet is for the breeder to do the individual registration on all the pups. Then it can't be changed.
 

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Originally Posted By: Krusin K9So how many of you register your dogs with AKC and USA(or another registry)?
We register our pups only with AKC. If the owners plan to pursue titles in other organizations or want to obtain registration from other organizations, they can easily do so themselves if the dog is already AKC registered.
 
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