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It doesn't bother him at all, it mostly just drives me nuts because it's just a random light spot in the middle of all the black. The hair does have a different texture, it is more coarse and the coat is not nearly as thick as it is on the rest of him. I don't remember when it first popped up.




To give you an idea of the size, doesn't show the true degree of color contrast (**** sables!).
 

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Could be allergies.

As to what I don't know.
That's what you get to find out.

My cat has this and cleared right up with prednisone. Of course I don't want to keep her on pred, so now I'm searching for what exactly it is that is causing it. But the fact that it reacts to Pred at all sends me looking for an immune response.
 

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Did he ever lose his hair in that spot - like shaving for a surgery or a clump got pulled out for whatever reason - and the hair grew back in? Just thinking that sometimes their fur grows in differently after things like that...
 

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I also wonder about an injury or skin scrape. I heard it is not unsual for black hair to come in white and white dark.

The trainer I work with showed me where the hair grew back on her dog and sure enough, the color changed.

My siamese had a hot spot on his back years ago and it grew in very dark instead of cream. I didn't really think about the skin problem causing it.
 

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I have posted few days ago ("Unsolved (so far) issue with his coat), for exactly the same problem like yours. It was pending to put some photos. There is no need any more since the photos you have posted are really representative for my dog too. The only difference is that my dog started losing the black hair, in both sides (same location) in the size of yours, but developped bigger. So far, the vets (more than one) have not found the cause of it. They suspect some hormone unbalance. We are looking towards this direction.
Whether we find something I will let you know (and please vice versa).
 

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My shepherd has almost the identical hair thinning/loss in the location on her side, it was nothing more than her scratching it too much due to dry skin.

However, it terrifies me when prednisone is casually thrown about. Pred is a serious, last resort drug, that is too often casually over prescribed. It can have terrible side-effects. Due a google search with "prednisone" and "evil" together... I can vouch for the evil viewpoint.
 

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Forgot to mention:

Couple of leave-on lotions that I found work to stop the dry, flaking, and itching, assuming this is the cause. Both are made by Virbac, one is called ResiCort and the other ResiSoothe. Resisoothe is drug free but Resicort has Hydrocortisone.
 

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No prior injury/hair loss. The skin itself does not look agitated and he doesn't have dry skin. Haven't noticed excessive scratching or biting.
 

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It sounds like a thyroid or hormonal problem. I'd get some blood work done just to be safe.
 

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Originally Posted By: localhost

However, it terrifies me when prednisone is casually thrown about. Pred is a serious, last resort drug, that is too often casually over prescribed. It can have terrible side-effects. Due a google search with "prednisone" and "evil" together... I can vouch for the evil viewpoint.
I'm sorry that you are terrified of prednisone, and that you felt it was thrown out "casually".

I stated my cat cleared up with Pred, but I DO NOT want to continue her on it for obvious reasons, but the fact that she cleared up at all with pred makes me think immune response.

If you google aspirin + evil or Teletubbies + evil you will get a host of websites for those as well.

Pred should be used with caution, but it is also helpful in some cases and can help determine where exactly the condition lies by the animal or persons response to it.

I know our poster would investigate any drug her dog was put on before administering it long term.
 

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Sorry for misinterpretation!

I was speaking not about your mention of it but of a not insignificant percentage of vets that rely on it as their miracle drug without considering alternatives and/or discussing what pred actually does to the dog.

As mentioned in a different thread, my 8-year old had itchy swollen lips. After seeing numerous vets without a diagnosis, the highly recommended vet that I was sent to for a solution made a diagnosis of pemphigus and told me we had to shut down her immune system or else.

It nearly killed her and looking back at it, the vet (the 3rd I had seen for opinions) had a diminished ego ( there was a young intern working alongside ), explained nothing to me about pred giving me the impression it was nothing more than an "antibiotic".

2-weeks of absolute **** for my 8-year old followed with her not having any bladder control, stumbling when she tried to walk, mentally unaware of me, etc.

After driving across country to see a specialist to confirm the misdiagnosis, we had the joy of slowly weaning her off of pred as one can't just stop using it ! You have to slowly wean or it can kill them. The pain of continuing to shove a pill into her mouth knowing it was the WRONG *##[email protected] diagnosis, hurting her, and and a misrepresented drug to me is hard to describe.

A year later, I don't believe she has yet to fully recover from the nightmare. Nor have I due to the guilt of allowing the diagnosis to proceed.

I am sorry for the long post, but don't get me started on the misuse of Prednisone.
 

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Aspirin can be stopped, tellituby thrown in the garbage, etc.

I define an evil drug as one that has harmful side-effects yet one that you cannot simply stop using. Pred must be slowly weaned regardless of the negative side-effects. Having to endure negative side-effects while not being able to stop using it to me ... is an evil drug.
 

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Originally Posted By: localhost...A year later, I don't believe she has yet to fully recover from the nightmare. Nor have I due to the guilt of allowing the diagnosis to proceed.

I am sorry for the long post, but don't get me started on the misuse of Prednisone.
I'm sorry for everything that your girl went through. I know there's no getting around the guilt, but it isn't your fault. We all have a dog that taught us something very important at their cost. That's what they do. Many of us on the board have such a story, although it comes in a different package.

I agree that pred is often misused. I had a vet that would laugh at me because he knew the issues I had with it, yet he would prescribe it as much as he could. That was his style of medicine, and he knew that I had a different one, and he would tease me about it. Ultimately, those different styles did drive me to find a new vet, although I stayed with him for a long time.
 

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Thanks for the feedback. Still sensitive/painful subject for me as you can obviously tell and know from experience :-0. Hurting one's best friend unnecessarily who gives unequivocal love and trust is a tough burden to have to carry. The only good news is that we ended up staying in the new dog friendly forest-laden northwest after our last vet visit. She loves it here and we have a good vet finally


However, sorry to mamagoose for getting the wrong impression from my post (always a risk with text and forums). Nothing intended and sorry we got distracted from the topic of this thread.

Back to the thread topic please of what is that hair/skin issue. Perhaps my distraction will evoke a cautious more optimistic approach as it very well might be nothing, just a thinning spot like mine has at that exact location on her side.
 

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my hahnzie's coat has spots were he chewed on his sides, the outer hairs have been chewed off, and the under coat is showing through. he is a sable coat.
 
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