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We're going through a really rough time with our six month old female Shepherd. She was diagnosed the first week of September with panosteitis (bone disease) in both of her front legs. Our vet put her on Rimadyl for one week. She seemed to be doing better throughout the month with just occasional limping. This past Thursday night we noticed she was limping again and by Friday night she was holding up her front right leg and limping pretty bad. We also noticed both of her lower eyelids were drooping. By Saturday morning her lower lids were worse, with severe drooping and they looked as if they were actually flipping out. We brought her to our vet first thing Saturday morning and he immediately put her back on the Rimadyl for another week. After examining her he couldn't exactly explain the eye condition because there was nothing wrong with her pupils or cornea and she wasn't displaying any neurological symptoms. He feels the drooping lower eyelids are a result of her being in severe pain from the panosteitis. My question is, has anyone else gone through this with their puppy and should I accept his explanation or make an appointment with a specialist?

My other concern is this poor girl has had so many problems since we brought her home at 8 weeks old. She has panosteitis, anaplasmosis, allergy to flea saliva (she was infested with fleas when we got her) with severe itching and biting (she successfully ripped out a huge area of her fur on one of her thighs), loose stools for a month, and this past week a urinary tract infection and the complications with the panosteitis and eyelid drooping. She has been on rimadyl twice now, on three different antibiotics, Comfortis and Program for the fleas, plus Revolution. I am worried that all these problems are connected to something larger my vet is not seeing, although he disagrees with me.

Is anyone else experiencing these problems with their own puppy? And does anyone have any advice? My puppy trainer has suggested accupuncture and has put me in touch with a DVM/accupuncturist (still waiting for a call back). I just feel so bad for this little girl who has been such a trouper throughout all this. And I can't shake this bad feeling that something bigger is going on. Thanks for any help in advance.
 

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My dog is 7 months old an also has Pano now. First he had it in his front left for 6 days, second front right for two weeks, and now back left for 4 days. I also have him on Rimadyl. My trainer suggested dog prenatal vitamins and sea Kleep. Theses also help the pano "Grown Pains". My vet told me that it last for 2-3 weeks and will travel front leg to leg. Solid gold has kelp powder called

Seameal: (Green Can)
Solid Gold Seameal Mineral and Vitamin Supplement for Horses, Dogs, and Cats at PETCO

You might want to try.... I will keep you both in my prayers.
 

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Has a blood panel been run since starting Rimadyl? In chinese medicine, eye problems are related to the liver.

For the droopy eyes, after running a panel, I would see a K9 chiro - always fixes my dogs when they geg a droopy or squinty eye.
 

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I'm sorry that your puppy is having so many health problems. Acupuncture could definitely help. It helped me with a painful, chronic inflammatory condition. The acupuncture vet may also be able to suggest some additional holistic treatments for your dog.

Unfortunately the underlying issue is most likely poor breedings. Gsds can have an unbelievable number of health problems! My first dog was like this but she did live until the ripe old age of 12 and had a wonderful temperament.

What are you feeding her? Does she get any supplements?
 

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My dog is 7 months old an also has Pano now. First he had it in his front left for 6 days, second front right for two weeks, and now back left for 4 days. I also have him on Rimadyl. My trainer suggested dog prenatal vitamins and sea Kleep. Theses also help the pano "Grown Pains". My vet told me that it last for 2-3 weeks and will travel front leg to leg. Solid gold has kelp powder called

Seameal: (Green Can)
Solid Gold Seameal Mineral and Vitamin Supplement for Horses, Dogs, and Cats at PETCO

You might want to try.... I will keep you both in my prayers.
Thank you! I will definitely check into this!
 

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Has a blood panel been run since starting Rimadyl? In chinese medicine, eye problems are related to the liver.

For the droopy eyes, after running a panel, I would see a K9 chiro - always fixes my dogs when they geg a droopy or squinty eye.
No, my vet didn't even suggest it! I will call him to discuss. Thank you!
 

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I'm sorry that your puppy is having so many health problems. Acupuncture could definitely help. It helped me with a painful, chronic inflammatory condition. The acupuncture vet may also be able to suggest some additional holistic treatments for your dog.

Unfortunately the underlying issue is most likely poor breedings. Gsds can have an unbelievable number of health problems! My first dog was like this but she did live until the ripe old age of 12 and had a wonderful temperament.

What are you feeding her? Does she get any supplements?
She is a third litter puppy (or so they said). The conditions weren't the best and she did come to us infested with fleas (yet the owners claim she was never exposed to the outdoors because she did not have her shots yet - that was at 7 weeks of age). When we got her we were feeding her Chicken Soup large breed puppy then switched to Solid Gold Wolf Cub. She had very loose stools for a month so we just recently switched her to Wellness Super 5 large breed puppy and she's doing much better on that. I also add Grizzly Salmon Oil to her food (total of three pumps for her weight range).
 

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I think Lakota is having a bout with pano now. She's 9 months old, we were away for the weekend and sunday afternoon when we came home she had a slight limp, now she's limping dramatically and crying. I felt her leg, shoulder, pads and even applied slight pressure and she didn't flinch.
On Leerburg's site I was reading some stories and I decided not to run to the ER last night. I don't like to give Rimadyl for a young pup so I gave her 1/2 an aspirin. It also said cutting back on food, which odly enough she has been doing on her own, she isn't that ravinous puppy she used to be. When my husband gets home this afternoon we will probably run her to the vet if she still is acting so extreme. I want to get a weight on her anyway, I think she's about 70lbs.
 

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I think Lakota is having a bout with pano now. She's 9 months old, we were away for the weekend and sunday afternoon when we came home she had a slight limp, now she's limping dramatically and crying. I felt her leg, shoulder, pads and even applied slight pressure and she didn't flinch.
On Leerburg's site I was reading some stories and I decided not to run to the ER last night. I don't like to give Rimadyl for a young pup so I gave her 1/2 an aspirin. It also said cutting back on food, which odly enough she has been doing on her own, she isn't that ravinous puppy she used to be. When my husband gets home this afternoon we will probably run her to the vet if she still is acting so extreme. I want to get a weight on her anyway, I think she's about 70lbs.
I also don't like the fact that Jenna is on Rimadyl again, however, after seeing how much pain she is in and what the pain is doing to her eyes I really don't think an aspirin will help her. But I will bring that up to my vet when I call to give him an update and see if that can be an option. Good luck with Lakota. Please let me know what your vet says about her condition.
 

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Dealing with panolsteitis is frustrating when your puppy is going through it. Our Jethro has been dealing with it off and on since July. (He is now 8 months old) Had him x-rayed by our vet in August to confirm what it was. It showed up on the x-ray as a blured, smudgy area on the x-ray. The vet told us that sometimes it shows on the x-rays & sometimes it doesn't. We had been giving ascriptin, but switched to tramadol along with pepcid ac. It did seem to help him with the pain. Jethro has had it in both front legs at different times, but not both legs at the same time. It is hard to watch your pup moan & whine while they go through this. Every time you go through this, you hope it is the last time he will have it. It has been about 2 weeks since his last bout with it. No signs of it returning yet! Other than the pain and limping, he showed no other physical symptoms. Hope your pup gets through it quickly!
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Thanks for the replies everyone. We're still having issues with the pano and Jenna is still on Rimadyl and will be on it a total of two weeks this time around. The eye condition seems to be better but still present. We had a home visit this past Friday night with a vet who specializes in accupuncture. She performed a range of motion exam on her and also found that she may have a pinched nerve as well. I was really nervous about the procedure but Jenna did great the entire time and actually slept much better for the first time since we got her. We're going to continue the home visits with this vet. I'm attaching a picture I took of her eyes. Of course it doesn't even come close to what the eyes actually look like when the drooping occurs but if anyone can give me some insight on it I'd appreciate it.

 

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The dog is on Rimidyl, comfortis, program, AND Revolution???

What else is this puppy on?

The liver issue kind of makes me wonder because all of these toxins are probably filtering through the liver, that might be causing the general malaise and the eye lids drooping.

Have you considered maybe getting her off all the flea meds if the fleas are under control now. If you see a flea or if the problem comes up again, then treat it, either by a flea shampoo, or a flea treatment, but why three separate flea treatments?

It may be bad breeding. I certainly do not like the idea of a puppy going home with a flea infestation. I also do not like the idea of a seven week old pup never being outside. But it could also be due to all the chemicals this dog is being subjected too on top of vaccines.
 

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The dog is on Rimidyl, comfortis, program, AND Revolution???

What else is this puppy on?

The liver issue kind of makes me wonder because all of these toxins are probably filtering through the liver, that might be causing the general malaise and the eye lids drooping.

Have you considered maybe getting her off all the flea meds if the fleas are under control now. If you see a flea or if the problem comes up again, then treat it, either by a flea shampoo, or a flea treatment, but why three separate flea treatments?

It may be bad breeding. I certainly do not like the idea of a puppy going home with a flea infestation. I also do not like the idea of a seven week old pup never being outside. But it could also be due to all the chemicals this dog is being subjected too on top of vaccines.
That's the weird part. She is off all the other meds right now except Rimadyl. The flea saliva allergy was so severe we took her to a dermatologist who had her on two doses of the Revolution (one every other week) which also acted as her heartworm medication and then the Comfortis and Program (once a month for two months). That was it for the flea medication. She is not on anything at all right now. She's also been off the antibiotics for a few weeks. Her recent blood work came back fine. Believe me I was not in favor of all the medication but both my regular vet and the dermatologist agreed that was the best treatment at the time. The accupuncturist also agrees with my regular vet about the Rimadyl. I am still going to bring her back for another blood test just to make sure. Anyway, the pano disease I understand. It's this eye condition that has me worried. If it doesn't clear up looks like we'll have to make an appointment with a neurologist.
 

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Hi sorry to hear your girl is having some trouble.

I can't comment on the eyelids, but Cody has had Pano twice now. each time lasted 2-3 weeks!!!! it killed me to see him limping around, but in time it goes away...
 

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My five month old went through the lower lid droopy eyelid thing about 3 weeks ago. It happened in just a few days, getting worse each day (more droopy) It was so bad I swear he looked like a basett hound at one point. It was really bad whenever he looked down towards the ground.

It turned out to be an allergic reaction to something, though we still are not sure what to this day. The vet put him on a prescription (pills) for 7 days for allergy and gave drops for his eyes (antibiotics) because the conjunctive gets inflamed and it cleared up about a week later tightening back up.
 

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My five month old went through the lower lid droopy eyelid thing about 3 weeks ago. It happened in just a few days, getting worse each day (more droopy) It was so bad I swear he looked like a basett hound at one point. It was really bad whenever he looked down towards the ground.

It turned out to be an allergic reaction to something, though we still are not sure what to this day. The vet put him on a prescription (pills) for 7 days for allergy and gave drops for his eyes (antibiotics) because the conjunctive gets inflamed and it cleared up about a week later tightening back up.
That's exactly what's happening to mine - usually when she looks down!!!!!! Finally, someone who's going through the same exact thing! At first my vet didn't see it because he was holding her head up, but the second she put her head down he noticed it. Thank you so much for replying to this because now I have something to work with!! I"m going to call my vet and discuss this with him. Thank you! Thank you! :)
 
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