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So I have an 9 month old ddr german shepherd. We take private classes and now group classes. The problem is whenever he sees another dog he lunges towards them and barks. He doesn't do this in an aggressive way but wants to play. He will also do this when on walks. We distract him with treats but there is only so much that works before he does not care about the treats. Any tips/advice is appreciated!
 

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My dog does the same at 14 months. We are sometimes what I feel like slow learning things. Right now say I'm at a park I still keep a large amount of distance. If my dog zeros in before I can distract him from even noticing the other dog but he has not pulled barked lunge. I turn the opposite way with a heel command, he does where a prong. If he reacts barks pulls I body block while getting a sit. The sit is coming much faster. At the sametime we have been working sit/release.The amount of time i am spending moving side to side this way and that is getting shorter. Once the dog gives me eye contact I mark. Heel command/reward we go. I don't get a lot of opportunities to work on this. I have used it with people it has gone much faster. He maintained a perfect heel, had we been any closer it would have been weird to a family playing kick ball which is his favorite toy and game. In the past it would be near as bad as another dog...did I mention he appears to love kids too....triple whammy. We were on pavement had it been grass all would have been lost LOL

I allow zero on leash meets with dogs period. I don't do dog parks. My dog loves other dogs, that's my problem. I'd love to be able to walk past a dog or talk to someone else with a dog and have a well behaved dog sitting next to me. I don't doubt we will get there it's a matter of time.

This is the what we have progressed to. Part of this is working towards having the dog calm in many environments away from home and learning how to behave to enjoy that environment.

I often feel like I have to get this done now. Then he shows me what a great dog he is and I remember to take my time after some arm twisting. My post probably doesn't apply to many I've never had a dog before. Series of peaks and valleys.
 

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You might want to find a balanced trainer to teach you how to use a prong collar properly, and your dog will work with you. Treats and toys are just distracting him and only a bandaid, but not teaching the dog what he isn't supposed to do.

A lot of dogs do need to learn both what he is supposed to do (positive, treats, toys, praise) AND what he is not allowed to do. It's just a much clearer message for the dog.
 

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I prefer a more counter intuitive unpopular method, although when you think about it it does make sense. I start off by clicker training the dog, load the clicker and practice watch me in the house. Once the dog has learned to look at me, click, treat, we go outside to distractions. As soon as we see another dog I click and treat. It works better and differently than just giving a treat because it interrupts the dogs thought pattern (just like a short prong correction might). It is now second nature to the dog to look to you after the click for a treat, so instead of looking at the other dog your dog will turn to look at you. I feel it also teaches the dog that other dogs are not a threat, or a party for them, they can look and not have to react. It gives them an option. My dog was pretty reactive around 6 months I'd say and we tried a couple methods for a while... this method nixed the behavior for us within a day and he has been perfect since. It's all about interrupting that train of thought and behavioral pattern before it occurs.
 

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If you are distracting him with treats when he lunges you are rewarding him for lunging. ^ Gandalf ^ is rewarding before the unwanted behavior happens for paying attention to the handler not the other dog.
 

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This behavior was the single most urgent matter I took my pup to a private K9/PPD trainer who breeds working shepherds. He was unmanageable during group classes with the local GSD Club because he felt it was his God-given right to play with the other dogs. "Trainers" at group had nothing to offer me beyond leash exercises and heading the opposite direction. Food held no interest for him when presented with other dogs, and he remains completely fearless and stoic, so overriding adolescent urges was just not happening. ONE session with the K9 trainer and he was over it and ignoring other dogs.
 

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This behavior was the single most urgent matter I took my pup to a private K9/PPD trainer who breeds working shepherds. He was unmanageable during group classes with the local GSD Club because he felt it was his God-given right to play with the other dogs. "Trainers" at group had nothing to offer me beyond leash exercises and heading the opposite direction. Food held no interest for him when presented with other dogs, and he remains completely fearless and stoic, so overriding adolescent urges was just not happening. ONE session with the K9 trainer and he was over it and ignoring other dogs.
What did the K9 trainer do? Did you watch?
 

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Yep, I agree. We have a prong and it works but when he sees a dog it doesn't stop him from going ballistic. Trainer is a whole different story, and we are in the process of changing trainers.
 

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Yep, I agree. We have a prong and it works but when he sees a dog it doesn't stop him from going ballistic. Trainer is a whole different story, and we are in the process of changing trainers.
If someone just puts a prong on a dog for walks and doesn't know exactly how to use it for correction, the dog (especially more resilient breeds like GSD) does become used to the feeling of a prong constantly pulling at its neck with no special consequence, and it defeats the whole purpose of the tool. It does need to be learned from a good trainer.
 
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