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My pups is 5 months now. We first got him home when he was 8 weeks old. He was like a little bear cub. Since he was small at the time, I was hoping our 5 yr old cat would come up and be sociable but instead he was standoff-ish. Well the dog grew and the cat finally came up but immediatley was confrontational with the dog causing the pup to react negatively. Now every time he see's the cat anywhere he goes crazy and the chase is on if he's off the leash which he is on the leash most of the time.

At times, he will lay and stare the cat down but won't try to get him until the cat decides to move.

I don't know if this has anything to do with some of it but he is going through a bad teething time right now also. I noticed this does effect his general behavior. I didn't know if this is linked or not.

It's not all the pup. The cat creates his own misery at times by hissing at him, and will actully stalk towards the dog. So it's not all the dogs fault.

My question is, what are some methods I can use to try to get these two to coexsist?
 

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Teething or not, your pup has to learn to respect the cat. When my Sting was a pup I had a cat she liked dogs, but puppy Sting thought the cat was a live fur toy. When the pup would chase after the cat - I stopped it right away. I would lift the cat up and say sternly "mine" and then give him his soft bear - make it squeak - and say very happily "this is your's". My pup slept in his crate until he was a year-old so he couldn't chase the cat at night. I even kept him on a leash which I hooked to my belt when I was working on the computer or reading so that he couldn't chase after the cat. I also was careful to feed the cat first, brush the cat first, greet the cat first, all this to show my pup that the cat was to be respected and came above him in the pack order. I would pick the cat up and also put the cat on a higher place like a table or counter so my pup could see that the cat was above him. When I had the cat on my lap and my pup would try to push the cat off (he was a big pup) I turned away from my pup and even turned the cat's head away and waited quietly - by the count of 10 - my pup had decided to take a nap with his bear. It takes a lot of time and effort, but is worth it. And as you do this, your cat will relax and not have to be on guard because he will see that you are in charge and he comes first.
 

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^ That's great information Mary Beth and I completely agree.

Our puppy is 4 months old and we got him at 7 weeks. We have two cats, one who is very social and will play and rough house with our puppy Luke. The other cat is very shy and generally avoids Luke altogether. Thankfully Luke has viewed the cats as litter mates since day one and Luke hasn't shown any signs of aggression towards either cat. Luke and the social cat (Shep) will rough house together and when it gets too rough at times (Shep gets cornered or starts hissing or growling) we'll separate the two. The worst that happens is Luke will chase the shy cat but it's purely playful on his part, he's curious about the other cat since she avoids him and they don't have much interaction together.

If your puppy is chasing your cat I would correct the behavior immediately and before it's too late. Preferably, you want to correct the behavior the first time it happens. In a perfect situation, the cat should stand up to the puppy on its own and swat or bite the puppy to begin with. Obviously this isn't always the case and that's where we need to step in.

Like Mary Beth stated, your puppy needs to learn to respect the cat and that this behavior is not tolerated. If not corrected now this can only get worse and more dangerous for the cat as the puppy gets larger and larger. Everyone has a different method of correction but personally I would not hesitate to pick your puppy up by the scruff of his neck any time he chases or gets ready to chase your cat. Pick him up by the scruff and slightly raise him off the floor until he starts yelping/whimpering. Make sure you have eye contact while you're doing this so he knows where the correction is coming from while giving your verbal command in a stern but calm voice (no, no chase, leave it, etc.). You need to prevent your puppy from going into prey-drive and keep your cat safe.

Also, teach your puppy "leave it" if you haven't already and put this training to use in real situations like when he chases the cat. Based on your puppies reaction I'm assuming a verbal command by itself isn't going to be enough (at least in the beginning) - that's why I suggested picking him up by the scruff.

Last bit of information I can think of is to make sure your cat always has an escape route to safely get away from the puppy and never leave them alone unsupervised. That can be a pet gate that he can jump over, a separate room to go into, a counter, high piece of furniture, etc. I think eventually they should learn to coexist together but that's something that's going to take a lot of patience and time. In the meantime, make sure your cat is safe and teach the puppy not to chase while he's still young. I think the biggest thing right now is for you to change the way your puppy views the cat.
 

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Thanks for the info. We had an instance this weekend where Cruz broke our babygate in half and slid down the steps on one half of the gate. He made it to the bottom of the stairs so quick the cat was supprised he was on him that quick and just barely escaped.

The instance of the cat standing up to the dog happened a month ago. The cat smacked him around pretty good. It only drove Cruz into a frenzy. It did nothing to help the cat. If anything it worked against him.

I'll try the pack order thing. Thats about the only thing we have'nt tried yet. Hopefuly it works. We've tried to use some of the things we've learned in class but there arw times Cruz looses focus and just ignores us. Thats why we keep him leashed indoors while the cat is out. I'm thinking I'm at the point now where I've though about crating Cruz and the cat next to each other for a few minutes a day. Just so they get used to be in close proxcimity to each other.

We'll try the pack order thing and go from there. Thanks all.
 

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This is all really great info! We are working with 4 cats and a puppy (going on 7 months old now) and it takes a lot of time and patience.
 

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One thing that makes me confused is I've had cats and dogs coexsist in he same house my entire life. This is the first time I've had trouble. Not to say it was always perfect, but the dog had self limitations. We never really had to police them.

I seen an episode of dog whisperer. Caeser I think the trainers name was. He was dealing with small dogs being aggressive. He took the less dominant dog and put his nose in the aggressive one hind end. I may just try this with the cat. Who knows, may work.....then again......
 

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One thing that makes me confused is I've had cats and dogs coexsist in he same house my entire life. This is the first time I've had trouble. Not to say it was always perfect, but the dog had self limitations. We never really had to police them.

I seen an episode of dog whisperer. Caeser I think the trainers name was. He was dealing with small dogs being aggressive. He took the less dominant dog and put his nose in the aggressive one hind end. I may just try this with the cat. Who knows, may work.....then again......
I think it has a lot to do with the prey drive of the dog and your pup has a high drive and views the cat as prey which as LookingforLuke suggested needs to be corrected before the cat gets hurt. I know you are frustrated but I wouldn't put them side by side in their crates - that imo is a waste of time because your pup is viewing the cat as prey - so sure, he will learn to sit quietly side by side but as soon as they are both free he will chase it. Also I wouldn't do the nose to hind end - that would be a great way to get scratched - me not the dog :) Also your pup needs an outlet for that prey drive.- if not already - play fetch/tug and let him bite the tug and end up winning. Also make sure he gets plenty of exercise and obedience training - sign up for classes if they are in your area.
 

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This Tuesday will be our third class in a six week coarse. He has the intelligence and does extremely well. It's in those hieghtened situations we need work. Like with the cat. I figure the nose to the backside probably may not work, but I like to think outside the box. You never know until it's tried. If its a fail then its try something else.

If, we want the pup to accept the cat as part of the pack, then the cat should socialise like part of the pack in a way that he can. If, he can socialise as part of the pack in some manner, and with our help be above the pup in the order, then the pup should not see him as a prey item but as a part of the pack. This is the theory I'm going with when it came to mind after reading some responses. Does this make sense? The cat cannot think along the lines of a human to know how to assert his dominence over the pup. So his survival instinct takes over and he either fights or flees. Most of the time is fleeing which in the dogs eyes plays into the prey catagory. Q

This is something I need to put some thought into before attempting. I'll try the redirect method first, but may try to ad in the other if they show good progress.
 

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My post on the pack order meant only in matters of teaching the pup that he is below the cat. He is not allowed to chase the cat because the cat belongs to me. In my view, any socialization is between me and the cat first (giving attention and so on) and second between the dog and me. That shows the dog that he comes after the cat. I only demand of the dog to not chase the cat. And I know cats love to tease, but when that happened - I would just pick the cat up and put it on a high place. Again showing the dog that the cat was not to be chased no matter how tempting. My only goal was that the cat would be safe and I achieved that goal because the cat died of old age. Because of the constant watching and being careful, I decided when the cat died not to get another because of my Sting's high drive. Like you, my previous dogs were not like my Sting, they co-existed peacefully with the cat.
 

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I hear you. I was just looking at it in a different way. Your method just spawned the idea I wrote. Of course I'm going to try your method first. It's a proven method. My method idea is just that, an idea and unproven. I'm not trying to twist your advice at all. I wrote my idea just for the reason of gettig opinions on the idea. Not to modify your method. At least thats what I am thinking.

I would like to attempt my idea, if, the method you offered doesn't work for some reason, or as a last resort. If I see it's only inflaming the situation, I will cease it immediately.

Thanks for the replys. The input is always welcomed.
 
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