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It turned out that Hans had an enlarged prostate and a fever.

For anyone that didn't see the thread I started, it is here:

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/genetic-issues/290618-how-early-would-you-see-dm.html

He has had an enlarged prostate before, but no fever.

These things have been going on now for almost 10 months. He had an impacted anal gland because of prostate enlargement.


Any advice on how to handle this-- supplements or medication -- would be very much appreciated.

I have searched the forum and found one reference on Proscar for dogs, but no feedback from people who actually used this.
Would this help with the inflammation and keep it at bay until he is older?
Any reason not to use it?

I am devastated, because I wanted to wait until he was at least two, ideally three, before we neuter him.
 

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I just posted in your thread a couple of weeks ago about Rusty having a enlarged prostate last summer, then he was fine after a check a few weeks later. The vet said not to rush to neuter because of that one incident and that we would keep an eye out.

I had him at the vets recently because I was afraid he had a impacted anal gland (the way he was holding himself & pooping was a red flag for me), which he didn't but the vet checked his prostate and it was enlarged again. He said it's shaped fine, just enlarged and he also had a slight fever. Of course there is a concern of PF with an enlarged prostate and that is a huge concern for me. The vet said there is absolutely no sign of them...his butt looks good for a lack of a better word.

I have no experience with Proscar but after a lengthy conversation with my vet he's getting neutered next Wednesday:( He is 3.

I'm sorry your dealing with this, I know Hans is a lot younger than my boy. I hope you get some good feedback.
 

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Thanks Courtney. Not what I wanted to hear.

I just heard back from the breeder, who says he should be neutered. I am so sad.
The good news is, that today he was more chipper than he has been in a long time, hopped right out of his pen, (usually he steps out one back leg at a time gingerly,) and after he peed for two minutes instead of ten seconds, he proceeded to have the zoomies.

Poor guy. He's feeling so much better.

I can't believe that I will have to have him neutered so soon.
 

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I also contacted my breeder & she said neuter as well. I am also bummed because I believe intact dogs benefit health wise from being ...well left intact.

But I always said a risk to his quality of life...enlarged prostate not fun for him, uncomfortable & painful there will be no question he will be neutered.

Hey, our boys will be fine:)

Glad to hear Hans perked up today....zoomies good sign!
 

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Courtney, I found something! :wild:

And I think this might be what saves us. This is the drug that was mentioned in the other thread, that is prescribed in Germany.

Ypozane.

You only have to give it to the dog for seven days and it lasts for five months.
It is only available in Europe, but I am traveling there in a couple of weeks.
This might be just what I need to get him through the next year.

Here's the link.

https://www.myhealthbox.eu/en/medicine/virbacsa/ypozane/783735
 

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An update, in case someone has the same problems.

I managed to contact the OP from this old thread, regarding what they do in Germany for young dogs with this problem.

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/health-issues/110251-prostate-problem-yuck.html

She said she gave Grimm a course of this medication (7 days) and never had a problem again.

I had my vet look into it (the name is Ypozane,) and he said it was worth a try, so we will be getting it and giving it to him for 7 days, when we return, if necessary.
So far, the treatment with Sulfa is making him feel much better. We go for a checkup later this week.
 

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Checkup tomorrow.

Antibiotics working great, but I have read he needs to be on them for over 3 weeks, not 10 days. Hopefully the vet will agree, as I want to see this infection gone.
 

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my male takes finasteride (Proscar). Complete resolution of his prostate issues in short order. He had a 7cm cyst and countless smaller cysts. 49ml of fluid came of the large cyst via ultrasound guided needle. in three weeks of finasteride the smaller cysts were gone and the large cyst was below 1cm across and very "deflated" in appearance (not holding fluid). Finasteride is for benign prostate hyperplasia... something that is estimated to effect 80 to 100% of all males that are intact (be those males of the canine variety or of the human variety). It is *NOT* for prostate infections... however agitation of the prostate from BPH could make infection more likely and so there may be both issues
 

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FYI we've been on finasteride for ~3 years now. We were treated at NC State Veterinary hospital's reproductive dept, and by a specialist in (I forget the word, but the bladder, kidneys, etc). here in charleston. They said they use finasteride all the time. My vet at the time said neuter was the only option. They were incorrect
 

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FYI we've been on finasteride for ~3 years now. We were treated at NC State Veterinary hospital's reproductive dept, and by a specialist in (I forget the word, but the bladder, kidneys, etc). here in charleston. They said they use finasteride all the time. My vet at the time said neuter was the only option. They were incorrect
Awesome. Do you care to share how much you pay for this? Does your vet think he will have to be on it for the rest of his life?
I don't think this would be something I would use very often at all, since most clients don't want to have their dogs on daily meds for life vs neutering and many have issues with being responsible intact dog owners anyway, but it could be useful for say an elderly dog who is high risk for anesthesia complications.
If my own intact male has prostate issues I will still just neuter, he's already 1 1/2 years old and not a valuable breeding dog.
 

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Just finished our check up at the vet. The antibiotics worked very well and he will be on them for a few more weeks.
Vet said to give him lycopene supplements.
So for now, we are in a good place and Hans is intact.
 

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Awesome. Do you care to share how much you pay for this? Does your vet think he will have to be on it for the rest of his life?
I don't think this would be something I would use very often at all, since most clients don't want to have their dogs on daily meds for life vs neutering and many have issues with being responsible intact dog owners anyway, but it could be useful for say an elderly dog who is high risk for anesthesia complications.
If my own intact male has prostate issues I will still just neuter, he's already 1 1/2 years old and not a valuable breeding dog.
$25 per month. I don't give it every day these days. We've gone as long as a month off meds with no issue.
 

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I want to update this for anyone else who is having similar problems with their dog.

We finished the course of antibiotics, and the problems did not go away completely. The prostate was still enlarged. Everybody recommended neutering, because that would be a quick way to shrink the prostate and take care of the problems. Hans would urinate, it's just that the urine stream would come out thin, like a sprinkler pattern. He was also obviously having pain, especially when walking for long distances -- he would start walking funny.
I did some research on this board and came upon an old thread, from a poster who lived in Germany at the time. The vet in Germany put her GSD on a medication called Ypozane, which is given there to young dogs with prostate problems. You give the dog one pill a day for five days, and this is equivalent of a chemical neutering. It reduces the testosterone in the body without completely eliminating it. The effects last for five months, enough to give the prostate a chance to recover.

Private messaged the poster, and she confirmed that she only had to give this medication once, a course for seven days. This resolved the problem, and it didn't come back.

I then jumped through some serious hoops to procure Ypozane, which is only available in Europe. I had to get my vet to write me a prescription, which he did after doing his own research. He was skeptical, but he humored me.

The long story short is that the medication worked, and we have been prostate trouble free ever since.
Hans is now two years old, and all his his parts are still attached :D
 

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I want to update this for anyone else who is having similar problems with their dog.

We finished the course of antibiotics, and the problems did not go away completely. The prostate was still enlarged. Everybody recommended neutering, because that would be a quick way to shrink the prostate and take care of the problems. Hans would urinate, it's just that the urine stream would come out thin, like a sprinkler pattern. He was also obviously having pain, especially when walking for long distances -- he would start walking funny.
I did some research on this board and came upon an old thread, from a poster who lived in Germany at the time. The vet in Germany put her GSD on a medication called Ypozane, which is given there to young dogs with prostate problems. You give the dog one pill a day for five days, and this is equivalent of a chemical neutering. It reduces the testosterone in the body without completely eliminating it. The effects last for five months, enough to give the prostate a chance to recover.

Private messaged the poster, and she confirmed that she only had to give this medication once, a course for seven days. This resolved the problem, and it didn't come back.

I then jumped through some serious hoops to procure Ypozane, which is only available in Europe. I had to get my vet to write me a prescription, which he did after doing his own research. He was skeptical, but he humored me.

The long story short is that the medication worked, and we have been prostate trouble free ever since.
Hans is now two years old, and all his his parts are still attached :D
Interesting. Is he still fertile?
 

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Interesting. Is he still fertile?
Unfortunately, yes, he is, LOL.

The drug is active for about 5 months, and after that, it gets out of the system and the dog's hormones return to normal.

Here is a good article on it.
How to treat Prostatitis in Stud Dogs. Information for breeders

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Consider adding in a drug called Osaterone acetate ( one brand name is Ypozane, by Virbac) which is a 7 day course of tablets , which can shrink the prostate by over 40 % within 2 weeks, reducing the extent of its negative effects quickly . It lasts for 6 months. Importantly it has NO effects upon male libido or fertility, infact it must improve it.
 

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Interesting thread. I had Grim neutered at 8 for an englarged prostate and it seemed like everything went downhill rapidly after that ... orthodpedically, and he died within a year from hemangiosarcoma. I wish this was an option I had know about then ... who knows if it would have made any difference but I would really reconsider had I understood the options back then.
 
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