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I have a 20 week old black male puppy who has been on Orijen Large Breed Puppy (LBP) since 10 weeks. At 14 weeks he started itching excessively and the vet is suggesting that he may have a food allergy. He was doing great on the Orijen LBP for the first four weeks and since then everything is great with the food except the itching. The vet suggests switching to a food whose primary ingredients are different then the Orijen LBP. I want to stick to Orijen if possible and was going to try Orijen Regional Red (RR). Here are my two questions;

1. At 20 weeks is there a downside to having him on Orijen RR as compared to the Orijen LBP

2. Does it make sense that since the primary ingredients of the LBP are chicken, chicken meal, salmon, turkey meal, herring meal and the primary ingredients in RR are deboned wild boar*, fresh deboned lamb*, fresh beef liver*, fresh deboned pork*, and lamb meal; that there is enough of difference in the primary ingredients to expect that he won't be allergic? (The full ingredient list for both LBP and RR are below)

Thank you in advance

Here are the Orijen large Breed Puppy Ingrenitents
Fresh boneless chicken*, chicken meal, fresh boneless salmon*, turkey meal, herring meal, russet potato, sweet potato, peas, fresh boneless turkey*, chicken fat, (preserved with mixed tocopherols), fresh whole eggs*, fresh chicken liver*, fresh boneless lake whitefish* fresh boneless walleye*, sun-cured alfalfa, pea fiber, fresh boneless herring*, organic kelp, pumpkin, chicory root, carrots, spinach, turnip greens, apples, cranberries, blueberries, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary, vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, selenium yeast, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Enterococcus faecium

Here are the Orijen Regional Red Ingrients
Fresh deboned wild boar*, fresh deboned lamb*, fresh beef liver*, fresh deboned pork*, lamb meal, peas, salmon meal, russet potato, herring meal, fresh whole eggs*, fresh deboned bison*, potato starch, fresh deboned salmon*, pacific whitefish meal, fresh deboned walleye*, salmon oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), sun-cured alfalfa, pea fiber, dried organic kelp, pumpkin, chicory root, carrots, spinach, turnip greens, apples, cranberries, blueberries, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile,dandelion, summer savory, rosemary, vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, selenium yeast, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Enterococcus faecium.
 

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for me personally, the 1.6% Ca is as high as ill go for a large breed pup. the RR is a little higher.

imo, it is just as likely (if not more so) that something else is causing the itching. colder weather often brings about itching because of the dry air in homes. you could try some fish oil to see if that helps. if not then you could try orijen's fish formula, which has no chicken/turkey.
 

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Thank you for your response. The breeder thinks that possibly the itching is being caused by something else but we belive that we have been ruling out the other matters that could cause the itching to no avail. He has been taking fish oil supplements sicne about 12 weeks. My thinking on the RR was that it had essentially no ingrentients that the LBP did. I check the Orijen fish and the max Ca is 1.6 while the max Ca in the RR is 1.8.

1. Do you think that the Orijen fish is differnet enough in ingredients from the LBP to see a change IF this is allergy
2. At how old do you not have to worry about the Ca percentages?

Here are the Orijen large Breed Puppy Ingrenitents
Fresh boneless chicken*, chicken meal, fresh boneless salmon*, turkey meal, herring meal, russet potato, sweet potato, peas, fresh boneless turkey*, chicken fat, (preserved with mixed tocopherols), fresh whole eggs*, fresh chicken liver*, fresh boneless lake whitefish* fresh boneless walleye*, sun-cured alfalfa, pea fiber, fresh boneless herring*, organic kelp, pumpkin, chicory root, carrots, spinach, turnip greens, apples, cranberries, blueberries, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary, vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, selenium yeast, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Enterococcus faecium

Here are the Orijen Fish Ingredients
Fresh boneless salmon*, salmon meal, herring meal, fresh boneless herring*, fresh boneless walleye*, russet potato, sweet potato, peas, salmon oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), fresh boneless lake whitefish*, sun-cured alfalfa, fresh boneless flounder*, fresh boneless northern pike*, pea fiber, organic kelp, pumpkin, carrots, spinach, turnip greens, apples, cranberries, blueberries, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary, vitamin A,vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, selenium yeast, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Enterococcus faecium. *
 
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