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Police in Hawthorne, Calif. shoot bystander's dog | ohmidog!

Warning, the video is graphic.


So much could have been done differently.
I have to say, what draws more emotion from me, is watching the owner when he realizes his dog is dying and they rip him away from him. That's a grown man breaking down in the middle of a crowd. Just had to watch his friend, who was trying to protect him, die like that.

Defend the officers if you want. That dog wasn't aggressing unless they reached at him. They could have asked the owner to escort him back to the car, to tie him up, they should have catch poles. They should be trained how to handle these situations.

Just another of mans best friend gunned down by the police. :rolleyes:
 

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Thank you for the warning! I will pass on watching the video. Is there a link to a article that explains what happened?
 

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Thank you for the warning! I will pass on watching the video. Is there a link to a article that explains what happened?
There is an article with the video. When I clicked on the link the video didn't play until I clicked play so you should be able to read the article without seeing the video.


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I saw no reason for the cops cuffing this guy, they could have told him to roll the windows up before they hassled him, the dog was protecting his owner, and bullets passing through the dog and ricocheting off the ground and hitting the bystanders, cops are very lucky no one was killed
 

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The guy was taking video of whatever the police were doing, it looked like a big thing, cop cars everywhere, a crowd. When they started to approach him he put his Rottweiler in his car, windows half down. They called him over and immediately put cuffs on him, I couldn't hear what was said, but when they started to drag him away from his car and his dog he resisted somewhat, the dog jumped out of the window barking, but stopped short and started sniffing all over. The officer reached at him, he charged forward and backed off again. The officer did it again, and then gunned the dog down - who managed to run/flail a good distance before convulsing in the road amidst screams and people crying, and the owner was dragged away from his dog who lay dying.
 

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I saw no reason for the cops cuffing this guy, they could have told him to roll the windows up before they hassled him, the dog was protecting his owner
I imagine it was hot - which is why I said they could have had AC come out if they really needed to cuff the guy and not just speak to him. He commented on the youtube video already - so I'd say they had no reason to detain him.


And you know that guy loved his dog by his reaction. He literally almost fell to his knees when he saw his buddy being shot. I can't imagine how helpless he felt.


*Also, anyone wondering, you really do not hear a reaction from the dog, I know that bothers me a lot when I see videos of dogs being shot is the screaming. I think there's a good chance he wasn't there mentally within a second or two, so it's mostly a body reaction you see. It's the crowd you hearing crying out for him.
 

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And you know that guy loved his dog by his reaction. He literally almost fell to his knees when he saw his buddy being shot. I can't imagine how helpless he felt.
that will be another person that has a devout hatred for the police, I hope he sues
 

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That was just horrible, to see the dog flailing on the ground like that, I just threw my hand over my mouth aghast at that moment, my dog is laying beside me, my knee touching his hip...I would just die if this happened to my dog, I leaned over and buried my face in his mane and told him I loved him.

Stupid dog owner.
 

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Sad to say, but nothing new in Los Angeles. Cops are like this to people and animals every day. They get away with it too, which is why they do it more and more.
 

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Oh man.... That was really hard to watch.

When the man put the dog in his car I almost said out loud, roll up the windows! But I bet the man did not know he was going to be cuffed.

The police were kind a rough with the man too, why, he was complying with them? Including the PO holding the rifle. I guess they don't like being videoed.

Absolutely heart breaking and the reaction of the crowd.....
 

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That was just horrible, to see the dog flailing on the ground like that, I just threw my hand over my mouth aghast at that moment, my dog is laying beside me, my knee touching his hip...I would just die if this happened to my dog, I leaned over and buried my face in his mane and told him I loved him.

Stupid dog owner.
Why is he a stupid dog owner? He wasnt planning on being handcuffed and you could see by the look on the cops face that if the guy turned his engine on to roll up the windows and didnt do what they were saying immediately they probably would have shot him. This guy was not breaking the law. Stupid cops. They want to scare the community from taping them by harrassing and arresting people and now killing their dog. You have the right to video a public servant in CA, but I have seen police take peoples phones , smash them with their feet and say prove it.
 

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Stupid dog owner.
No way was this the owners fault. He put the dog in his car when the police approached him. He was responsible. Blame the cops but not the owner.

Also why didn't the police get onto the other people video taping? If they are going to get this guy for it, to the point that they end up killing his dog, then why not get the others?


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Oh man.... That was really hard to watch.

When the man put the dog in his car I almost said out loud, roll up the windows! But I bet the man did not know he was going to be cuffed.


The police were kind a rough with the man too, why, he was complying with them? Including the PO holding the rifle. I guess they don't like being videoed.

Absolutely heart breaking and the reaction of the crowd.....
That's what I thought. He had no reason to think he was about to be taken anywhere.

Even if the dog sat in the car happily - that would have been irresponsible of the officers. Cali, summer, large dog left in a public place in a car?


No, they generally do not like being taped, I think you'll be able to find plenty of videos of officers having bad reactions to be videoed. If they'd ignore it and act professional and go about their business, it would look a lot better on them.


JUST for the record, I have no issue with law enforcement. It just seems like a lot more trigger happy cops are coming out. I mean - come on! did you hear about the 13yo Cocker spaniel!?
 

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No way was this the owners fault. He put the dog in his car when the police approached him. He was responsible. Blame the cops but not the owner.

Also why didn't the police get onto the other people video taping? If they are going to get this guy for it, to the point that they end up killing his dog, then why not get the others?


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Hopefully some more info will come out, the police will make a statement, something and we can have some answers about their actions.

The man didn't seem to be acting aggressive or even suspicious. Maybe a little too nosy but I'd think even the cops know people are, and all they had to do is ask him to stay beyond a certain point. Very sad.
 

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Why is he a stupid dog owner? He wasnt planning on being handcuffed
No way was this the owners fault. He put the dog in his car when the police approached him. He was responsible. Blame the cops but not the owner.

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That was just horrible, to see the dog flailing on the ground like that,

Stupid dog owner.
There was 4 cop cars, SWAT (according to link), he crossed the road and boldly videotaped the PO's, he then stood while holding his unwitting dog, holding his phone up and at the cops, despite their body language as they approached him - once he realized he was in deep khakha, he scrambled to put his dog in the car and (guessing here) was called back towards the police, or did he voluntarily go towards them?

Did the dog deserve to be shot - NO. Did the police over-react? - YES

The dog owners arrogance superseded his integrity where the safety of his dog should have been a concern. pissing off the police with dog in tow. Stupid dog owner
 

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The man wasn't doing anything wrong though. He has a right to stand on a public street and video tape what is happening there. He wasn't obstructing, he wasn't doing anything illegal. In fact, with the many issues areas in California have had with police brutality I can understand why he was video taping it....just in case something like this happened.

Did he make a mistake in not securing the dog? yes. But the police were way out of line and there will probably be a lawsuit.
 

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I never said he did do anything wrong. What he did was antagonize the police with his dog in tow. HE didn't tape discreetly, he stuck it up and at them. Blatant and boldly. Stupid. His dog is dead, b/c he didn't just leave well enough alone.
 

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I never said he did do anything wrong. What he did was antagonize the police with his dog in tow. HE didn't tape discreetly, he stuck it up and at them. Blatant and boldly. Stupid. His dog is dead, b/c he didn't just leave well enough alone.
how did he antagonize the police? when i woke up this morning I thought i was in america
 

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Wish I hadn't watched that. I normally don't have an issue with cops, they are just people doing their job to the best of their ability and sometimes they make mistakes....But that was totally un called for. Why didn't they have a perimeter set up if it was a big deal for civies to be near the scene? If everyone would have stayed just a little calmer none of that would have happened and the dog had no intent until the cop started screwing with him. Very sad.
 
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