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It's looked down upon to do that. I understand the reasons behind it, health and temperament should come first. You can have a beautiful dog that bites or is crippled and his looks don't mean much at that point.

But I don't think we can deny that people are visual creatures. Looks matter in our world, people can talk about 'inside beauty' all they want but I think I read about studies that prove that pretty people have things a little easier.

Back to dogs, the reason most people are attached to a certain breed to begin with is largely because of looks. Yes, there are breed traits and breed reputation (some people want a 'tough dog') but i'd say looks do play a huge part in the picking process.

So if you agree with that then what's wrong with taking it a step further and picking the color and look?

It's much easier to bond with an animal if you like their look IMO. Or maybe, I like my dog's look because I bonded with him?
That's an interesting one)))))


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I don't think you should pick a dog based on looks alone. But there are so many good breeders out there that it's not hard to find one breeding for EVERYTHING on your list. It's just can't be the only thing on your list.




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I don't think you should pick a dog based on looks alone. But there are so many good breeders out there that it's not hard to find one breeding for EVERYTHING on your list. It's just can't be the only thing on your list.




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I agree.

What if there wasn't such a selection? What if you found a dog that's perfect in every way but looks wise is not your type.

I'm not sure what i'd do. Hopefully take him anyway))))))


Now I'm wondering, do I like my dog's looks because he's mine or he just happened to look the way I like? He's not the traditional looking gsd (or mix) so I think it's the first.



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Just over a year ago I was getting a black/red from a reputable breeder , until I walked into the shelter and walked past Midnites cage. I did not like his looks , they did not appeal to me even a little bit. He looked at me with such longing in his eyes and it hit me hard. If course I had them bring him out and his temperament was absolutely wonderful. Needless to say I spent the next couple days thinking about him and made the decision to get him and give up the puppy I was going to get. It took me a long time to even like his looks, we bonded way before I realized he was good looking. In my case looks had nothing to with why I chose him or making it easier to bond.

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I had my heart set on a sable when I got Delta. She was from a litter that produced almost all sables... But she was the only female. She's a black and tan. She may not be what I thought I wanted in terms of looks but she's utterly perfect in every other way and exactly what I wanted for temperament (and she's a very pretty girl, if I do say). I'm glad I didn't hold out and wait for a sable. I think it's fine to have something in mind in terms of looks, but it's a problem when you forego everything else to get a look you want.


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I had my heart set on a sable when I got Delta. She was from a litter that produced almost all sables... But she was the only female. She's a black and tan. She may not be what I thought I wanted in terms of looks but she's utterly perfect in every other way and exactly what I wanted for temperament (and she's a very pretty girl, if I do say). I'm glad I didn't hold out and wait for a sable. I think it's fine to have something in mind in terms of looks, but it's a problem when you forego everything else to get a look you want.


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I saw your post in the other thread. That's why I posted. You replying to that post.

I think this is the right way to go about it, just not sure how easy it is to do for everyone.

I wonder if looks have something to do with dogs being dumped in shelters. Or it's always temperament?

Like did anyone dump their dogs because they don't like their looks? No one would probably admit to it because they'd be afraid to look shallow but I wonder if it happens often?

If it does then maybe picking based on looks is not such a bad idea for some? Then again, if someone is keeping their dog only because they like his look then maybe that's not the best place for them.

Lol, excuse me, I am having fun. I like thinking about stuff like this.



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I like him)))) I like thin dogs personally but his face (lol) is my taste

I thought I remembered you saying something about lack of mask and I assumed it was the lighter dog that was in your avatar before

Whatever though, that's commendable. I always admired people that just love dogs, looks and breeds aside. I'm much more shallow than that.


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I like him)))) I like thin dogs personally but his face (lol) is my taste

I thought I remembered you saying something about lack of mask and I assumed it was the lighter dog that was in your avatar before

Whatever though, that's commendable. I always admired people that just love dogs, looks and breeds aside. I'm much more shallow than that.


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We kinda like him too;) He is a huge part of the family and I couldn't be happier with him. He looks bigger then he is . He got up to 100 pounds and I put him on a diet. 80-85 is the goal and we are almost there. My female is considered slim and slender by the vet.
 

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There is nothing wrong with wanting a certain color or pattern. A dog is a 12-14 year investment so why not get what you want if you are willing to wait for it?

However, along with color all the other things need to be considered. Temp., Health, energy level you want. It can't just be all about color.
 

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I saw your post in the other thread. That's why I posted. You replying to that post.

I think this is the right way to go about it, just not sure how easy it is to do for everyone.

I wonder if looks have something to do with dogs being dumped in shelters. Or it's always temperament?

Like did anyone dump their dogs because they don't like their looks? No one would probably admit to it because they'd be afraid to look shallow but I wonder if it happens often?

If it does then maybe picking based on looks is not such a bad idea for some? Then again, if someone is keeping their dog only because they like his look then maybe that's not the best place for them.

Lol, excuse me, I am having fun. I like thinking about stuff like this.



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Dogs absolutely get dumped because of looks. It happens far more often than I care to think about.

I had people in the last store that literally walked in, saw a dog they liked better in looks, got the new dog and then a week later the old one was "mysteriously" gone. I don't think people like this should have animals at all. They can't take care of them and they don't see them as living things. And if the new dog does anything wrong? Then I hear "well, it was pretty, but it was crazy/mean/cold/misbehaved/didn't want to play fetch" (seriously) and then it goes right back in the system.
 

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Otto was my first puppy after years of having rescues. Both his parents were rich bicolors who looked like Luther which was what first caught my eye on this match up. I met the dam, what a charm and the sire, drive out the waz. At 5 weeks old, I did a PAT on the whole litter. 2 of them were black, I kinda always wanted a black but Otto was the puppy I wanted. At 5 weeks, he looked like Luther.

Turned out I wanted a puppy with Luther's temperment and that's what I got. Other than bone structure, Otto looks nothing like Luther now that he's grown. Acts just like him though and I love that.

With Viv, I still had black dog on the brain. Karen breeds for blacks with health tests and solid temperments (everyone remembers Blackjack and Sally - Viv's sire's parents, One of the black girls from the dynmaic Thing 1 and Thing 2 duo, one of them is V's mother)

Venus was shipped to me at 8 weeks old after Karen took great care to listen to Otto's quirks and what I wanted in a puppy. I got exactly what I wanted. And she's black.

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I had my heart set on a bicolor female. Only one female in the litter and she's liver...when it came down to it color didn't matter I just wanted a dog.
 

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I had my heart set on one particular female because she was pretty and she liked ball... One year later I'm taking her to a barn to learn to bite appropriately, I'm into an extremely time consuming dog sport, and I have gotten her a brother and bought a house so she can have a yard...Now I have an intelligent and gorgeous creature that I must learn to control for her own safety . Such is the life of a GSD owner who is responsible for her decision to love a dog completely no matter what she needs. The rewards, however, are endless with German Shepherds.
 

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I fell in love with a petfinder photo of a local stray. I wanted to foster the dog and did so. I wish I could have been a foster failure with him, he was such a great dog, but he was reactive/aggressive to my husband and son...so not a good fit for my family.
We bonded quickly, even though I knew he'd only be temporarily living with me. Once he earned my trust, his loyalty was so amazing. I still miss him.
I would always choose a breeder that has what I'm looking for visually as the lines are part of the structure and color that goes right along with the rest of the dog. Nothing wrong with it, IMO.
 

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There is nothing wrong with wanting a certain color or pattern. A dog is a 12-14 year investment so why not get what you want if you are willing to wait for it?

However, along with color all the other things need to be considered. Temp., Health, energy level you want. It can't just be all about color.


That's what I thought)))) I picked my dog based on looks only (puppy looks, not sure how reliable that is)))) but I didn't know any better. Now I do and if I get another one then I will try picking the one with the right temperament and hopefully no health issues. Since I'm still largely clueless, I'm not sure how I will judge temperament. hopefully by then I either learn or someone will help))))

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Dogs absolutely get dumped because of looks. It happens far more often than I care to think about.



I had people in the last store that literally walked in, saw a dog they liked better in looks, got the new dog and then a week later the old one was "mysteriously" gone. I don't think people like this should have animals at all. They can't take care of them and they don't see them as living things. And if the new dog does anything wrong? Then I hear "well, it was pretty, but it was crazy/mean/cold/misbehaved/didn't want to play fetch" (seriously) and then it goes right back in the system.

What do you mean 'In your store'. Pet store or a shelter?

Didn't want to play fetch? Lol

If dogs can choose their owners most of us would be In for a wake up call. I often wonder if my dog would've chosen me if he had the choice. Like, maybe he'd want to go to a sport home or a working home. Or maybe just a different owner.

Also, if dogs could talk I wonder whether we'd still love them as much as we do. Since they can't talk it's easy to imagine and attribute many thoughts and qualities to them.



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