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In addition to concerns about the higher bone content, necks also contain thyroid tissue which when fed too often or in too high amounts can cause dietary hyperthyroidism as evidenced by studies done in 2012, 2013 and 2014.

I know a lot of people feed necks frequently with no problem but I personally am not comfortable feeding them more then a few times a month. That's also why I do complete blood panels at each wellness visit.

Thank you for the link, I will re-think the diet plan now as I was unaware.
 

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I do think necks x 3 weekly is way to much. I feed once a week at most. I would have no issues with feeding carcass x 3-5 times a week.
When you say carcass, you mean like the chicken backs (sorry just want to make sure I understand)?
 

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What are your bone-MM-OM ratios?
Based on all the reading I figured I'd start out at the below ratios and adjust accordingly as needed. Spool appears to be close at these levels right now but was going to see how the next couple weeks go to see how he doing.

45% Raw Meaty Bones
50% Muscle Meat
5% Organ Meat

thoughts?
 

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Is anybody using green tripe as a staple MM? It doesn't seem like it, and I am curious to know if that has to do with the mineral ratios...
 

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What cuts of meat does everyone use for pork, beef, lamb and whatever else besides chicken and turkey? Currently feeding a commercial while I try to stock up to start doing it myself. Going to contact my butcher in the next few days to make a deal on an order. They provide freezer orders for awesome prices.. and I clearly don't need t bone steak, so I'm hoping we can make a decent deal
 

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Hello. Quick question. Kimber is on a raw diet and Im currently feeding her turkey as for her protein. Can i mix in a little beef tripe for a treat? Wasn't sure if i could mix different proteins in the same serving. Thank you
 

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Just started feeding my yorkie raw, but I'll add to this thread!

8 yr old spayed Yorkshire Terrier
Low/Average activity level
She's had pancreatitis twice so I try to keep her on a low fat diet

First 9 days on raw:
PM: 3.2 oz chicken MM
A few small chicken bones mixed in with MM
Half of a chicken wing RMB around Day 5

Day 10:
PM: 2.4 oz chicken MM and 1.8 oz turkey MM
Chicken leg RMB

Days 11 to now (I think we're on day 13):
PM: 3.2 oz turkey MM
Half
 

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Mauser - 9 month old GSD, very active about 50% of the time
AM - 16 ounces RMBs
PM - 16 ounces MM & 1.5 ounce OM
RMBs - chicken leg quarters/backs/necks, canned mackerel, turkey necks
MM - beef and pork heart, ground turkey/beef
OM - Bison mixture (liver, kidney and some MM)
Misc - green tripe, eggs, oatmeal (if I forget to defrost something)
Supplements - Salmon oil (Omega 3s)
Limitations - None
I know this is an old post, but this is extremely helpful!
 

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Hello all,

I have a Labradoodle (13 years old) who weighs about 55 lbs and GSD (4 years old) who weighs between 105-110:
I will be starting my dogs on the raw food diet Saturday night or Sunday morning, after doing my research my plan is to start with chicken, I'm thinking for the doodle:

For breakfast
1/2 chicken breast with bones
1 tsp ACV
1/4 tsp garlic powder
1-2 fish oil pills ( I'm thinking of just opening them on the food) and
1/4 tsp probiotic

For dinner
boneless 1/2 breast or boneless thigh or ground chicken
1 egg for dinner


For our GSD:

For breakfast
Maybe some thighs with bones or breast with bones
1 tsp ACV
1/4 tsp garlic powder,
2 fish oil pills for breakfast

For dinner
boneless breast or some boneless thighs or ground chicken
1 egg
1/4 tsp garlic powder
2 fish oil pills for dinner

I will try a chicken neck and back maybe a couple two or three times during this first week in place of their breakfast protein. I will also use alfalfa powder as soon as I can order some.

I will incorporate some fruits and veggies after a week of this diet (as long as it goes well) still using chicken as my protein, then after another week I will change the protein to either pork or beef.

If anyone sees any issues or has any recommendations please let me know, any and all advice is welcome.

Thanks
Jack
 

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So today (Sunday we started our dogs on the raw diet.

In keeping with what I've been reading I'm going simple with just chicken.
The menu that I put in the previous post has been changed based on what they would and would not eat.

The doodle tried to eat some boneless skinless thigh meat but chewed it a couple of time and spit it out.
So of course panic set in and I was thinking she won't eat the raw diet so now what. But I fed her a neck and she ate eight of them and we gave her about 1-1.5 Tbs yogurt and 1 egg (no shell).

The GSD surprised me very much because she did eat 4 oz of boneless skinless thigh meat but only nibble and chewed on a whole leg. I was planning on giving her 2 legs and the thigh meat but she barely ate and of the one leg and none of the other. She seemed very picky and didn't seem to like chewing and breaking the bones (again which surprised me very much). She did eat 5 necks but that was it. I'm hoping she will come around and start chowing down on the legs (bone and all) soon.

My dinner plans for them now is:

GSD- Chicken necks and backs so she gets enough bone and more thigh meat or breast meat.

Labradoodle- 2-3 necks and chopped up thigh meat or breast meat

I am planning on buying a grinder to make things easier and help organize their packets of food.

I did not give e any ACV or probiotic or fish oil with breakfast I will try to incorporate them into dinner.

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So today (Sunday we started our dogs on the raw diet.

In keeping with what I've been reading I'm going simple with just chicken.
The menu that I put in the previous post has been changed based on what they would and would not eat.

The doodle tried to eat some boneless skinless thigh meat but chewed it a couple of time and spit it out.
So of course panic set in and I was thinking she won't eat the raw diet so now what. But I fed her a neck and she ate eight of them and we gave her about 1-1.5 Tbs yogurt and 1 egg (no shell).

The GSD surprised me very much because she did eat 4 oz of boneless skinless thigh meat but only nibble and chewed on a whole leg. I was planning on giving her 2 legs and the thigh meat but she barely ate and of the one leg and none of the other. She seemed very picky and didn't seem to like chewing and breaking the bones (again which surprised me very much). She did eat 5 necks but that was it. I'm hoping she will come around and start chowing down on the legs (bone and all) soon.

My dinner plans for them now is:

GSD- Chicken necks and backs so she gets enough bone and more thigh meat or breast meat.

Labradoodle- 2-3 necks and chopped up thigh meat or breast meat

I am planning on buying a grinder to make things easier and help organize their packets of food.

I did not give e any ACV or probiotic or fish oil with breakfast I will try to incorporate them into dinner.

Jack
Hi Jack,

I've just started too and I'm feeding a 10 month old GSD. I'm using the Prey model along with a bit of veg.

I'm basing what I'm feeding her on a 70 adult dog...
That works out to a total of 28 oz per day
22.4 oz muscle meat
2.8 oz bone
1.4 oz liver
1.4 oz other organ meats

Because I feed her twice a day, I divide those amounts in half.
She's not doing well on liver yet so she's getting a teaspoon every two days (I know that's not enough but I've got to get her acclimated to it first, and over time it will balance out) and I'm giving her other organs every other day - she had a gizzard this morning. She also gets about an ounce and a half of Kefir twice a day.

Necks are 75% bone, so several necks a day might be too much bone… I'd keep trying with the muscle meat, they might be a little confused at first but they'll get the hang of it.

* Please be aware I have only read a couple books, websites, and forums about raw feeding - so I'm no authority, I'm not a vet, I didn't even stay in a Holiday Inn last night. I'm just a beginner too. *
 

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Coco's mum, thanks for the response.

I hear ya about being a beginner, it's certainly a learning experience.

Starting tomorrow I am going to cut back on the neck bones for the doodle and add more meat.

This AM the doodle ate
4 neck bones
4 oz thigh meat (no bone)
1 packet of probiotic
1 egg

The GSD ate
12 oz of chopped up chicken legs with bones
4 oz thigh meat (no bone)
1 1/4 packet probiotics
1 egg


I found a meat market near my work and they will grind up anything you want (or at least their web site says so), my plan is to grind up legs and buy ground up breast or boneless thighs. I'm stopping there after work to day. I thought I bought liver but I couldn't find any in my fridge so I will pick up some today and incorporate about 1/4 tsp into their dinner tonight.
I will try to keep everyone posted or at least up date once in a while.
 

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Raw Food

Interested in learning about the RAW food diet. How does it align price wise with the top line of dog kibble? I am paying 56 dollars for 30 lb bag of Taste of the Wild.

If this Raw food ends up being less expensive AND better for the dog in the long run... I'm going to look into it.

Just a beginner on this site!
 
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