[hunterisgreat]

First my male and female
Beschützer des Jägers von den Sportwaffen
X
Katya von Hügelblick

V Lubeck von der Mahler-Meister
X
Katya von Hügelblick

Finally, any alternates for Jäger and why that female?

 

[lhczth]

Is Lubeck in the USA?

Both are very masculine males. I think it will depend where you want to go. Both dogs bring some stuff that is different and some the same (more T litter), with Jäger maybe bringing the most differences.

 

[hunterisgreat]

Is Lubeck in the USA?

Both are very masculine males. I think it will depend where you want to go. Both dogs bring some stuff that is different and some the same (more T litter), with Jäger maybe bringing the most differences.

Could you elaborate about the differences? Yes I was told today he is in the states

 

[lhczth]

I only did a quick look. Jäger brings a lot of Czech, but I don't know the Czech lines well enough to comment even though I have met his sire, saw him trial and off the field. I also saw his grandsire in trials and in training plus have talked to a number of those that did his helper work.

Lubeck has some slightly different lines in his mother along with show lines. I like his sire. That is why I asked if he is in the states. I know the mother lines of his father extremely well since they are pretty much the same as my foundation bitch Nike.

 

[robk]

Lubeck is an Inox son. Inox also produced Dodge Kiridesja. Dodge produced this female;
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/schutzhund-ipo-training/257666-ipo-training-china-video.html

I like Inox. However, my dog is also very closely related through his maternal grand sire, Kobalt.

 

[cliffson1]

If you are going to do sport, I would go with Lubeck, if I wanted to get a potential police or PSA dog, I would take Jaeger.

 

[Chip Blasiole]

I know someone who owned Lubeck briefly and thought highly of him. He breeds for police and military, has very high standards and doesn't really care much for GSDs.

 

[ugavet2012]

I know someone who owned Lubeck briefly and thought highly of him. He breeds for police and military, has very high standards and doesn't really care much for GSDs.

Suttle?

 

[lhczth]

Personally, knowing the lines of Lubeck's sire extremely well (and also some of the mother) I disagree with Cliff. IMO you could get good all around solid working GSD from both crosses.

 

[hunterisgreat]

Personally, knowing the lines of Lubeck's sire extremely well (and also some of the mother) I disagree with Cliff. IMO you could get good all around solid working GSD from both crosses.

Could you tell me a bit about those lines? Both the good and bad (everyone tends to only state the good, which isn't a complete picture and ultimately not actionable info)

 

[cliffson1]

Never said you couldn't get could working dogs from either....never mind! You are right!

 

[robk]

Hunter, sending you a pm

 

[hunterisgreat]

Actually, tell me the bad that could come of either breeding lol. That's more useful info to me lol