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I had a super nice one for Kelsey to take to AKC shows...the first time I took it to schutzhund - one good swipe when she was excited during bitework and shredded crate....If the dog has any enthusiam for work, and gets exciting waiting their turn, it is rags....for AKC shows, they are good for a well crate trained dog who respects the idea of a crate....but they offer absolutely NO security at all!

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