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So today I took Reagan to the vet to get X-rays for possible HD. She's always slow to get up from laying down, hesitant to jump on the bed or in the truck, and this past weekend I noticed her bunny hopping. The vet examined her and said her hip and thigh muscles seemed underdeveloped, which can indicate HD sometimes. I dropped her off for the X-rays, expecting an HD diagnosis. Instead, the vet found something else on the X-ray:

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Apparently she was injured at some point before I adopted her, and an FHO must have been performed. The vet said there's also a fracture in her pelvis, so he guesses she was hit by a car. The leg is in a weird position because there is so much scar tissue they couldn't straighten it, even with her sedated. The vet said she has almost no range of motion in that leg. He doesn't think there's anything we can do to help, but sent it to an orthopedic specialist for another opinion. Definitely not what I was expecting to see.
 

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wow, I would definitely get an Ortho's opinion. Looks like the femoral head was broken right apart. Poor girl, she must be very stoic.
 

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wow, I would definitely get an Ortho's opinion. Looks like the femoral head was broken right apart. Poor girl, she must be very stoic.
Hopefully we'll be hearing back from the ortho early next week! I have digital copies of the X-rays as well so I may send them to some other orthopedic vets and a canine rehab facility near me. The vet is guessing the head was surgically removed, but I agree with you that it looks broken apart. She was a stray before animal control found her and I adopted her, so it's very possible that it just broke and nothing was done. I feel so bad for her. I had no idea something like this was going on this whole time. :(
 

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Poor thing.

But that does not look like an FHO that was done by a professional. I wonder if it was just shattered? Who knows.

But in the end, it matters not how it happened or when. It matters that you love her and are going to make sure she has what is needed from now on!!!
 

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Poor thing.

But that does not look like an FHO that was done by a professional. I wonder if it was just shattered? Who knows.

But in the end, it matters not how it happened or when. It matters that you love her and are going to make sure she has what is needed from now on!!!
I agree. Since she was a stray, I wonder if she was hit by a car at some point and shattered the joint. In the x-ray you can see some small pieces around the joint that look like maybe bone fragments. I feel so bad that I've had her since May and had no idea. She walks, plays, runs, and doesn't seem to show any issues except for when she first stands up and when she jumps, which I why I thought it might be HD and decided to do X-rays. I think if I ever adopt another dog in the future, I'll do x-rays soon after adoption just to make sure everything is ok. I'm hoping the orthopedic vet will have some suggestions for how to help her!
 

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Wow, that does not look like the result of a surgical procedure to me!

What are you giving her for joint support?
As of right now, I have just been giving her glucosamine msm. If anyone has any suggestions for things that might help her, I would love to hear them!
 

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Wow, such a life she has had in a short span. However, she now has her forever home, where she is loved, and will get the best treatment possible. There is joint support food you can get from the vet, however, it may put extra weight on your pup. Good luck.
 

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Wow, such a life she has had in a short span. However, she now has her forever home, where she is loved, and will get the best treatment possible. There is joint support food you can get from the vet, however, it may put extra weight on your pup. Good luck.
I am trying to look into every possible thing that could help her. After I hear back from the orthopedic vet, I'm going to schedule a consultation with a canine rehab vet that's near me to see if that can help. I may ask my vet about the joint support food, but I worry that extra weight may make the joint issue worse since she really doesn't have a joint on that side. :(
 

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My last shepherd, Stella, had bad hips, I kept her lean, gave her cosequine, tried the joint support food, watched the weight... She didn't start to bunny hop until she was close to 11 years, she passed away just before 12 years..

PS, I did my best to never let her run...
 

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Sorry for the image size - this was taken of my dog a few years after her FHO - she does very well. It was taken while she was unsedated and not necessarily cooperating well) but for reference for you. Unbelievable your girl has been walking around like that and still has good behavior. Amazing.

There is a good likelihood that the ortho vet will recommend a THR. I am very happy with the FHO - I have no worries that something in her will get infected (which I would perseverate on).

I use Springtime Inc products - Ruth on this thread actually sent the first bottle to me for Ilsa and they all get them. Ilsa gets 3 tabs a day, plus fish oil of some kind. She'll be 10 this year.

Good luck, keep us posted!
 

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Sorry for the image size - this was taken of my dog a few years after her FHO - she does very well. It was taken while she was unsedated and not necessarily cooperating well) but for reference for you. Unbelievable your girl has been walking around like that and still has good behavior. Amazing.

There is a good likelihood that the ortho vet will recommend a THR. I am very happy with the FHO - I have no worries that something in her will get infected (which I would perseverate on).

I use Springtime Inc products - Ruth on this thread actually sent the first bottle to me for Ilsa and they all get them. Ilsa gets 3 tabs a day, plus fish oil of some kind. She'll be 10 this year.

Good luck, keep us posted!
Thanks for the info! That x-ray looks very different from Reagan's, so I'm thinking the vet was mistaken about her having an FHO. I really think some sort of trauma happened and it was never taken care of.

I'm honestly still in shock that Reagan's hip looks like that. You would never know by looking at her. Her favorite things in the world are playing fetch and rough-housing with her two fur-siblings. She has never even limped. The only symptoms have been her getting up slowly and stretching a lot after laying down, and being hesitant to jump up. These just became noticeable in the last month or so, so I'm thinking the cold weather may be a factor. I may get her a heated bed and see if that helps ease her discomfort. My vet didn't even suggest pain medicine. He basically said there's nothing we can do. I feel like there has to be something that can help. I'm not going to give up.

Can a THR be done with a messed up hip like that? I thought with a THR they just remove the head and neck, but she already has more bone than that missing. I just wonder if they would be able to do one. Or maybe they could actually do an FHO and just go in and clean up the joint? I don't know. I hope the ortho has some ideas for my poor girl. :(

Thanks for the supplement recommendations! I'll look into them for sure.
 

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That is an amazing x-ray (the original from the start of the post)

 

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I am going to email this to a couple of people in rescue and at my vet office, and tell them her story, because it's so unreal. I am not saying I don't believe you! Just that your dog has gotten used to this level of pain as her normal, and has gone on from there apparently! I can't stop saying amazing. Especially when MRL put the picture below my dog's picture...ouch. Thank you for rescuing - they are like a box of chocolates, but you got a good one despite her injury!

Oh - duh, editing - some other thoughts.

1. Supplements - I do like the Springtime - they have a different kinds, and you know, send them a picture of that xray and say hey, what do you think. :) http://www.springtimeinc.com/comfort-guide-for-dogs Another very good one is Dasuquin with the MSM and you can find that online for various prices. Is the evidence there? I don't know.

2. A good bed, and less jumping will probably help her. She probably won't lay on the good bed. ;) But at least she'll have it. To help her get up and in to the front of the truck, you can use a Ruffwear harness - they look very cool, people will comment on her even more and it's like hoisting a piece of luggage - the only thing I will caution is the first few times she will be using more of her power, you will also overestimate and you will want to make sure the passenger window is up because she will fly! www.ruffwear.com various prices again to shop around.

3. PT at a good rehab vet - watch the packages - you can't tell with the packages what is working and what isn't. Like my GSD (not the xray dog) got the laser and underwater treadmill. She hates exercises so liked laying there with the laser, didn't like the treadmill, I saw great improvement - not sure why, and what I would do with her if we had to go again. So I would like to do one modality at a time now, evaluate, try something else.

4. Adequan - such a good thing for dogs and may be something to either start now, or have in mind for the future.

There's a lot of things you could throw your money at, I like to try to find the information that shows it works before doing so.

Definitely keep us updated!
 

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I'm not good at looking at xrays but even I can say that is a seriously messed up hip and leg. ouch!!!

Depending upon what your ortho vets suggest, I'd consider accupuncture & chiropractic (the chiro will help with the alignment of the rest of the body - not so much with that hip/leg I think). I would also seek an wholistic vet for alternative herbs and such to help with her comfort.

The damage seems so extreme that I would have thought a good vet would have seen something wrong with that "group of body parts" from a physical exam that you should have been given/gotten at the get-go.

She's lovely and I hope you can find something to make her even more comfortable.
 

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I am going to email this to a couple of people in rescue and at my vet office, and tell them her story, because it's so unreal. I am not saying I don't believe you! Just that your dog has gotten used to this level of pain as her normal, and has gone on from there apparently! I can't stop saying amazing. Especially when MRL put the picture below my dog's picture...ouch.
Yeah, feel free to share! Her story is definitely unreal to me too. We've had her since May and had no idea something was even wrong with her. Let me know if anyone you send it to has any advice/opinions! I'm trying to get as much advice as I can so I can help her.
 

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I'm not good at looking at xrays but even I can say that is a seriously messed up hip and leg. ouch!!!

Depending upon what your ortho vets suggest, I'd consider accupuncture & chiropractic (the chiro will help with the alignment of the rest of the body - not so much with that hip/leg I think). I would also seek an wholistic vet for alternative herbs and such to help with her comfort.

The damage seems so extreme that I would have thought a good vet would have seen something wrong with that "group of body parts" from a physical exam that you should have been given/gotten at the get-go.

She's lovely and I hope you can find something to make her even more comfortable.
Thanks for your suggestions!

And I don't blame my vet for not being able to tell by a physical exam that something was wrong. I'm around her every day and couldn't tell. She was at the shelter two different times before I adopted her and was seen by vets both times without them realizing. I took her for an exam as soon as I adopted her and that vet didn't notice. And she has seen three different vets at the practice I go to, but none of them could tell. The way I see it, if none of the vets she has seen could tell, it must be really hard to notice.

Thanks for the well-wishes!
 
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