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What is up with the Calcium being 1.8% and the Phos being 1.2%?

On the "regular" Guaranteed Analysis it says 1.2 % cal and 0.9% Phos. But these are "Minimnums".

But on the "Detailed Nutrient Analysis" page is says 1.8% and 1.2% "AS FED".

So for folks that prefer to go by the "calcium level of 1.5% or LESS" for large breed puppies, that they need to look elsewhere for kibble? That is how it looks to me.

(Chances are it was the same with the "old" formula", but I never saw a "Detailed" analysis.)
 

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I *Think* one is dry matter basis and the other as fed but I don't know for sure.
It's all soooooooooooooo confusing!!
 

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I think my answer makes no sense
since we're talking dry to dry and not dry to raw/canned
 

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Originally Posted By: Barb E.I *Think* one is dry matter basis and the other as fed but I don't know for sure.
It's all soooooooooooooo confusing!!
The "Dry matter basis" is Cal 2.0% and Phos. 1.3%.

The 1.8 and 1.2 are AS FED.

Canidae Guaranteed Analysis.

As to being SOOOOO confusing!! I know, it makes my head hurt about as much as this:
 

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I think as you were typing that I was typing my *Doh* how much of an idiot am I post
 

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Originally Posted By: BlackGSDAs to being SOOOOO confusing!! I know, it makes my head hurt about as much as this:
I'm just glad that all I have to worry about at this point is Dante and not a pup.
I figure by the time I get a brother for Dante you'll have it all figured out *G, D, RLH*
 

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Originally Posted By: Barb E.I figure by the time I get a brother for Dante you'll have it all figured out *G, D, RLH*


Don't hold your breath! Besides, you KNOW the "rules" will have changed by then anyway!
 

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Originally Posted By: BlackGSD


Don't hold your breath! Besides, you KNOW the "rules" will have changed by then anyway!
How true is that?

So yesterday my friend and I were discussing the fact that if you're feeding a food with (I'm making up numbers here) 1.2% calcium but have to feed 5 cups a day is your pup getting more than if you're feeding a food with 2% but you only have to feed 3 cups a day??
 

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From Dogaware: http://www.dogaware.com/dogfeeding.html
There are a number of newer, high-protein, low-carbohydrate diets now being offered, for both adult and senior dogs. Some of these are also OK for puppies, if approved for them or for all life stages, but be careful of any with very high calcium percentages (best to stick to 2% or less calcium on a dry matter basis for large-breed puppies under the age of six months).

Just more food for thought
 

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You know it isn't nice to TRY to confuse me and then LAUGH AT ME!!!


I don't have to worry about any of the new fangled fancy kibble. Because you can NOT get it around here and I can NOT drive 100 miles ONE WAY to get it!!! Nor can I afford to pay $30 in shipping PER BAG.
 

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Originally Posted By: Barb E.
So yesterday my friend and I were discussing the fact that if you're feeding a food with (I'm making up numbers here) 1.2% calcium but have to feed 5 cups a day is your pup getting more than if you're feeding a food with 2% but you only have to feed 3 cups a day??
Beats me!
Along the same lines, if you are feeding a "All life stages" or "adult" kibble that has say 1.2% calcium, is the pup getting way more than that if they have to eat DOUBLE the adult ration? Or does it not work that way?

Maybe I should just feed this: Yum, Yum!


Then at least If it turned out badly, I would nave NO reason to be surprised.
 

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I wasn't laughing at you, that was my throw myself on the floor laughing in hysterics laugh.

 

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Originally Posted By: Barb E.I wasn't laughing at you, that was my throw myself on the floor laughing in hysterics laugh.

Yeah, RIGHT!
 

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As I understand it... Everything must meet a minimum percentage same with protein and fat, so 1.2% maybe the minimum standard G. A but "as fed" will be the actual real percentage that is always higher by a little.
 
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