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im wondering if any one has ever had any experience with jaw/tongue problems before.i've had german shepherds all my adult life and competed in obedience competitions with my dogs,i have a lot of friends involved with gsd's and thought my knowledge was ok about the breed. but just the other day i noticed that my 17mth old bitch was sick ,twice on the monday. i never really worried about this as having 4 kids i thought she might have just been eating sweets or something,and just missed out her dinner that night.then by the wednesday i noticed a lot of slavers on her mouth and i thought that being on day 10 of her season this was caused by licking herself.on friday i took her to the vet an after an extensive manual examination could not find anything wrong with her mouth,lynff glands,throat or stomach and was showing no signs of any pain.he gave me tablets for stomach settling and told me to keep an eye on it.since then ive noticed her bottom jaw and tounge have stopped working right .when she trys to eat, the food just falls back out her mouth,she is getting some in but it seems like she cant get it over the back of her throat.as when she drinks she cant seem to lap right,spending 5/10 mins at the water bowl (blowing bubbles out of her nose)trying to drink but not actually swallowing much as its all still in the bowl or the floor but all cloudy.i am managing to hand feed her at the back of her throat but this is really worrying me.i'll go back to the vet tomorrow an see if they can do anything else.but if anyone has ever seen anything like this i would love to hear your opinions. thanx
 

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As your vet about masticatory muscle myositis (MMM). it is an inflammatory process affecting the muscles that allow your pup to chew/move their jaw. Unfortunately one of the breeds most likely to be afflicted are German Shepherds. It thankfully is treatable with steroids.

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1755&S=1&SourceID=42

Wishing you the best
 

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thanx a lot , i will mention this to my vet and hopefully he can help me out. this is my first time on this (or any) gsd forum and cant believe i got a possible answer so quick. once again thanx very much.:D
 

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i would agree it probably is myositis. and i believe the immune system attacks itself with this issue. so,,,,,even though predisone is used for this, and it can and probably will be a chronic thing. so, steroids long term i would be concerned about. look for alternative methods of dealing with this.

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If you go back far enough....may of 2007, you will see my post where my 4 year old shepherd was diagnosed with MMM. He had the exact same symptoms. For us it was a horrible experience. He was on predinsone for a long time, which caused him to become aggressive and gain a lot of weight. We ended up putting him down 3 weeks ago because they disease totally took over. With that said, a lot of people are able to combat MMM and some make pretty good recoveries.
 

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thanks again for all your messages and after looking up mmm on the internet i'd better get her in tomorrow,hopefully it's not but if it is i'll deal with it as it comes, really sad to hear about your dog bosco ,its the worst thing to have to do m8,having done it myself i dont want to be doing it again in a hurry,thanks again
 

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WELL JUST TO LET YOU KNOW CLEO HAS FINALY BEEN DIOGNOSED WITH MMM, SHES BEEN PUT ON STEROIDS (PREDNISOLONE)AND CAN ONLY HOPE SHE WILL PULL THROUGH.HAVE SINCE SPOKE TO A FRIEND WHOS SHEPHERD HAD MMM AND AFTER 4 WEEKS OF STEROIDS SHE HAS REGAINED FULL NORMALITY.SO THERE IS SOME HOPE,THANKS TO EVERONE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO TALK TO ME AND I WILL CERTAINLY USE THIS SITE AGAIN FOR ADVICE .CHEERS JASPER
 

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I posted on another link about my German Shepard. He was diagnosed with MMM. That link suggested that I post here. I'm glad I was given that advice.

My dog was diagnosed with MMM 2 months ago. I'm a wordy person, so bear with me.

About 2 and a half months ago, my dog started rubbing a side of his face, constantly. I thought it was a bug bite or something, so I just felt his face to see if there was swelling or a puncture, or something! I couldn't find anything. I watched him daily, and the rubbing continued, and then I started to notice half of his face receeding. I took him to the vet, because something wasn't right. That was obvious. My vet diagnosed him with MMM. He was immediately put on a low dose of prednesone (10mg per day). I wish that was all he needed. My dog got worse. We doubled the dose, and then my vet said to get to UF in Gainesville ASAP. I did that. They confirmed the MMM. My dog went to a neurologist, as well as, the internal medicine specialist there. They quadrupled the prednesone to 80mg's daily. It's only been 2 days since this has happened, so I don't know much yet, about if this drastic dosage is working.
The one thing that the vet(s) are happy about is he has not yet had chewing problems........no fibrosis yet. That is the true danger of the condition.
However, what is racking my brain is the aggressiveness of this disease! 3 months ago, he could have been a show dog. Today he looks like a creature from 'Tales of the Crypt'. I may be exaggerating a little, but not much.
No case I have read about shows how fast this thing normally progresses. The vet(s) do not expect for the lost atrophied muscles to regenerate, they hope only to stop progression. I can live with that, and so can my Zeus Man (since he really isn't suffering much other than occasional whining when he rubs his face).
The hardest part about this diagnosis, for me, is understanding what we are up against. I've been told at UF, if his condition isn't stabilized, I have only months with him. I've also been told by the same people, that if he is stabilized, he can be fine, and just look bad.
No one really knows enough about this, even the best of the best. It's scary for me. I'm only glad that my dog has no clue about how critical his situation is. His behavior is fine (though a tad lethargic due to the steroids - a relative thing, since he's a jumper and a licker and an 'in your face' kind of 80lb love bug, even after 2 years of training with the CHP canine program).
So any advice is not only welcomed, but needed. If there are specific questions about my dog that I haven't addressed, please ask!
I'm trying to understand!
Thank you for dealing with my long post! Wendy
 

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The jaw thing was the only issue we saw and questioned...since she got jaw motion back she seems to have bad reactions to the meds....what was your long term experience with the meds??? Millie has lost 9 lbs of muscle, lethargic, and stumbles when she walks....? so worried....hopefully this post still alerts you...I noticed it is old but praying I find some answers!


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